Another Minnesota shooting

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by fast4522

I think Ralph is spot on "adrenaline rush", shooting the tire and having a commanding order might have had a much different result.

shoot out a tire...

you live a sheltered life? are you a far-left liberal in disguise?

Nobody is going to sit there and try and shoot out a tire...as if that's going to stop someone from driving away from the cops...I've seen guys driving on RIMS to get away from the cops...

So you shoot out the tire....the guy drives off anyway and plows into a couple of kids playing outside because he loses control of his car.

Quality idea.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by xtb

Hindsight is 20/20 but given the current state of things in MN they should not have tried to stop him, they could get him at home and add an extra charge.

This.

Regardless of political climate and should be SOP everywhere.

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[davew]

CNN reporter risks her life to get the news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypnrBNVWlM

[Rex Phinney]

LOL at people saying they should have just let him go.


Why have police at all, let's just allow people to do whatever the **** they feel like. If you want to murder someone or burglarize a neighborhood so long as you make it into your car and head home by the time the cops get there, they just let you go. Sounds awesome.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

This guy should sue and he will get paid


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dau...police-officer

That is simply not right. No one should lose their job for calling for due process. The opposite of due process is mob rule and lynching.

Particularly upsetting is the board member who said the officer acted properly but voted to fire her because she feared reprisals from the protesters. Shows a definite lack of courage.

I am leaning toward believing that the officer thought she had her taser and this was a tragic accident. Perhaps further evidence will show that not to be the case.

However, there are other facts which lead me to believe the police are not entirely blameless. Mr. Wright was pulled over for having expired tags. Hardly a major criminal offense. I watched a video of the incident on MSNBC. Mr Wright was already out of his vehicle and police were attempting to put handcuffs on him before the officer announced he “Has warrants.” Why would they do that except that he was committing the crime of being black?

Many people here have expressed the opinion this would not have happened if he had cooperated and not tried to run. That ignores history. Black people live with the knowledge that encounters with police frequently end tragically for them. I understand if Daunte Wright had a desperate fear that he was going to die if he didn’t flee.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by Rex Phinney

LOL at people saying they should have just let him go.


Why have police at all, let's just allow people to do whatever the **** they feel like. If you want to murder someone or burglarize a neighborhood so long as you make it into your car and head home by the time the cops get there, they just let you go. Sounds awesome.

Why not? They had his drivers license. They knew his license plate number and therefore where he lived. It was an old warrant. Why hadn’t they already executed it?

[jay68802]

He was being put in cuffs because of his prior history, that included weapon possession and fleeing to avoid arrest.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by Rex Phinney

LOL at people saying they should have just let him go.


Why have police at all, let's just allow people to do whatever the **** they feel like. If you want to murder someone or burglarize a neighborhood so long as you make it into your car and head home by the time the cops get there, they just let you go. Sounds awesome.

I don’t think everyone should be let go if they try to run but in this situation, looking at it as a Monday morning quarterback, it may have had a better outcome. If the cop managed to tase the guy as he drove off and he lost control of the car and killed innocent people, that’s a tragic outcome too. Another death during an arrest only compounds problems and fires up the left even more.

I don’t know what the law says about it but I wonder if it’s possible that when a suspect is about to be arrested, the first thing a cop should do is remove the car keys from the ignition.

[Rex Phinney]

Originally Posted by mostpost

That is simply not right. No one should lose their job for calling for due process. The opposite of due process is mob rule and lynching.

Particularly upsetting is the board member who said the officer acted properly but voted to fire her because she feared reprisals from the protesters. Shows a definite lack of courage.

I am leaning toward believing that the officer thought she had her taser and this was a tragic accident. Perhaps further evidence will show that not to be the case.

However, there are other facts which lead me to believe the police are not entirely blameless. Mr. Wright was pulled over for having expired tags. Hardly a major criminal offense. I watched a video of the incident on MSNBC. Mr Wright was already out of his vehicle and police were attempting to put handcuffs on him before the officer announced he “Has warrants.” Why would they do that except that he was committing the crime of being black?

Many people here have expressed the opinion this would not have happened if he had cooperated and not tried to run. That ignores history. Black people live with the knowledge that encounters with police frequently end tragically for them. I understand if Daunte Wright had a desperate fear that he was going to die if he didn’t flee.

Typical Mosty. You started out with a pretty good, reasonable point (that due process is in order regarding the officer) and then you finish without any reasoning whatsoever that all of this is because of the "crime of being black".


He had multiple arrests and an outstanding warrant. How do you know that the mention of the warrants in the video you saw was the first mention of it? They could have been discussing the warrants well before the video started.

[Rex Phinney]

Originally Posted by xtb

I don’t think everyone should be let go if they try to run but in this situation, looking at it as a Monday morning quarterback, it may have had a better outcome. If the cop managed to tase the guy as he drove off and he lost control of the car and killed innocent people, that’s a tragic outcome too. Another death during an arrest only compounds problems and fires up the left even more.

I don’t know what the law says about it but I wonder if it’s possible that when a suspect is about to be arrested, the first thing a cop should do is remove the car keys from the ignition.

How do you think other criminals will take this news? That the police will let you go if you hop in your car and drive off.



Do you think this will increase or decrease the potential for resisting arrest?


I do think removing the keys from the ignition is a reasonable thing that should be included in training. My guess is that it's a bit of a infringement of rights issue. You get pulled over for not using a blinker and the cop takes your keys? That might not be legal, but I see that it could be helpful.

[ElKabong]

Originally Posted by Rex Phinney

How do you think other criminals will take this news? That the police will let you go if you hop in your car and drive off.



Do you think this will increase or decrease the potential for resisting arrest?


I do think removing the keys from the ignition is a reasonable thing that should be included in training. My guess is that it's a bit of a infringement of rights issue. You get pulled over for not using a blinker and the cop takes your keys? That might not be legal, but I see that it could be helpful.

Spot on. Great post

[xtb]

Originally Posted by Rex Phinney

How do you think other criminals will take this news? That the police will let you go if you hop in your car and drive off.



Do you think this will increase or decrease the potential for resisting arrest?


I do think removing the keys from the ignition is a reasonable thing that should be included in training. My guess is that it's a bit of a infringement of rights issue. You get pulled over for not using a blinker and the cop takes your keys? That might not be legal, but I see that it could be helpful.

I think if it was broadcast that police will let you go if you hop in your car and drive off, it will certainly increase the potential for resisting arrest, but that's not what I said.

I'm on your side Rex but every time something like this happens, whether justified, not justified or accidental, our country dies a little more. It is used to bolster the false narrative that our country is systemically racist (it's not) or that all cops are out to kill black males (they're not). There is utter disrespect for law enforcement in this country, one might say it is "systemic". There needs to be new and different tactics to deal with these situations, there is no room for mistakes.

[thaskalos]

Black...white...green...whatever...you take your life into your own hands when you resist arrest. Just sit there with your hands on the steering wheel and let the chips fall where they may. And this goes ten-fold if you have outstanding arrest warrants.

[46zilzal]

Just today a shooting at a high school in Knoxville left one dead (SO FAR)