Are stewards allowed to bet on horse racing ?

[the little guy]

Originally Posted by ZippyChippy423

I can only imagine what went on prior to the Internet.

For one, people were blissfully unaware of your existence.

[v j stauffer]

Originally Posted by the little guy

For one, people were blissfully unaware of your existence.

OUTSTANDING POST

[ultracapper]

HAHAHA!!

OMG!!! And the extra point is good!!!

That was just funny.

[AndyC]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

In California the Stewards are paid by the CHRB. California Horse Racing Board. They have no interest in a track's business model. They often make decisions the individual tracks do not agree with or like. Like calling a race no contest for example. When that occurs the track must refund all wagers. Certainly not in the best interest of the association.

I VERY strongly believe the chance a racetrack would tell the Stewards what to do in an inquiry to further a carryover is extremely unlikely.

NO COLLUSION!

I am not suggesting collusion or any conspiracy theory, but to say a steward has no interest in a track's business model is not correct. If not for the success of the track there would be no need for a steward. The CHRB is funded by the wagering (business) of the track so the CHRB and stewards have a definite interest in the business success of the track.

[v j stauffer]

Originally Posted by AndyC

I am not suggesting collusion or any conspiracy theory, but to say a steward has no interest in a track's business model is not correct. If not for the success of the track there would be no need for a steward. The CHRB is funded by the wagering (business) of the track so the CHRB and stewards have a definite interest in the business success of the track.

They may have an interest but it's not vested. If the track has a great year and it's stock holders are thrilled. Or if they go in the crapper it doesn't effect the stewards. Their assignments and pay check don't change.

The only way they could be impacted is if racing in their jurisdiction ceased.

[big frank]

Originally Posted by the little guy

For one, people were blissfully unaware of your existence.

Grand Slam ! walk off by Andy !

[AndyC]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

They may have an interest but it's not vested. If the track has a great year and it's stock holders are thrilled. Or if they go in the crapper it doesn't effect the stewards. Their assignments and pay check don't change.

The only way they could be impacted is if racing in their jurisdiction ceased.

Do you see a lot of new tracks opening these days? There is a high probability that racing will cease and stewards will lose jobs at several tracks. Given the prospect of losing jobs is it really out of the question to think that business implications might have a small influence on thinking?

[rastajenk]

Short answer, Andy: Yes.

[v j stauffer]

Originally Posted by AndyC

Do you see a lot of new tracks opening these days? There is a high probability that racing will cease and stewards will lose jobs at several tracks. Given the prospect of losing jobs is it really out of the question to think that business implications might have a small influence on thinking?

Sure. I'll give you that. We're all one day away from the unemployment line. But I wouldn't use the word influence. They may be concerned but I can't ever see a scenario where they would be involved in any way.

[mountainman]

I've seen contrarian stewards, with contempt for management and the entire operation-the kind who would like to see the ship sink simply out of spite-but I have never known a steward much concerned about handle, bottom lines or carryovers. And CERTAINLY not concerned to the point of sacrificing integrity, risking reputation, and jeopardizing their very positions.

It sounds good in theory that stews have the sort of vested interest in the tracks they work at that could creep into their decisions. But in the real world, that is simply not how they think or operate.

And I have been WELL acquainted with many, many stewards.

[jimmyb]

Becoming and being a Steward not as easy as I thought.



https://www.thebalancecareers.com/racing-steward-125762

[v j stauffer]

Originally Posted by mountainman

I've seen contrarian stewards, with contempt for management and the entire operation-the kind who would like to see the ship sink simply out of spite-but I have never known a steward much concerned about handle, bottom lines or carryovers. And CERTAINLY not concerned to the point of sacrificing integrity, risking reputation, and jeopardizing their very positions.

It sounds good in theory that stews have the sort of vested interest in the tracks they work at that could creep into their decisions. But in the real world, that is simply not how they think or operate.

And I have been WELL acquainted with many, many stewards.

EXCELLENT POST

[Robert Fischer]

Stop ****ing worrying about Stewards betting, and worry about competent stewards. Stewards that the public sees as 'authority figures' (not 3 blind mice). Stewards that consistently rule and share universal 'rule interpretations' on certain commonly occurring scenarios.

Let's get that **** first.

Whether they bet is a fun curiosity, but the game itself and the perception of integrity should be of primary concern.


As a matter of fact, **** it

[v j stauffer]

Originally Posted by jimmyb

Becoming and being a Steward not as easy as I thought.



https://www.thebalancecareers.com/racing-steward-125762

It's certainly not a way to get rich.

Many states don't offer benefits or a 401k plan.

Assignments can be spotty with changing racing dates and competition for work from other available judges.

For obvious reasons being a Steward can be a thankless job. No matter your decision someone is going to be disappointed and suggest you don't have what it takes.

If you work at a track and have many friends. I thought I did. Become a Steward and watch that roll call shrink.

When I resigned in 2015 I was frustrated about not getting better assignments. By being the safety steward which is totally different than being "in the stand" That and there were a couple of CHRB investigators I didn't get along with.

But by far the biggest reason was because I wanted to be in action betting. I wanted to see if I fully immersed myself in the "war vs the windows" if I could be successful.

I would love to someday return to the Steward's Stand.

[mountainman]

Originally Posted by jimmyb

Becoming and being a Steward not as easy as I thought.



https://www.thebalancecareers.com/racing-steward-125762

Some stewards are well versed on how a racing dept operates, others not so much. Some work, some are ceremonial. Some I respect, others not so much. But most of them got the job by being connected in the right places.

90% of the people who become racing officials aspire to be either a steward or racing secretary. Most realize rather quickly that they could never handle the secretary's position..I mean in any way, shape , or form. At that point most decide that becoming a steward has been their lifelong, burning ambition.