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06-09-2018, 08:58 AM
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Pletcher & Brown 23 Horses Today @BEL -- before scratches!!! who will you have???
Who will you root for Team Pletcher or Team Brown?
Pletcher's Team
Brown's Team
Should be interesting!!!
I guess this is the new norm for racing!!!
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06-09-2018, 10:18 AM
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Queen B
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Who will you root for Team Pletcher or Team Brown?
Pletcher's Team
Brown's Team
Should be interesting!!!
I guess this is the new norm for racing!!!
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Well this is a side effect of allowing uncoupled entries...
I’ll take CB over TP any day and twice on Belmont
Day.
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06-09-2018, 10:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TiffaniO
Well this is a side effect of allowing uncoupled entries...
I’ll take CB over TP any day and twice on Belmont
Day.
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Hey TiffaniO
I hear ya I will have the results of the outcomes after today's races are finished!!!
We will see who is who!!!
I am not going with either of them instead I will go with Casse today his barn gives more bang for the buck !!!
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=145350
Last edited by TheOracle; 06-09-2018 at 10:27 AM.
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06-09-2018, 12:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TiffaniO
Well this is a side effect of allowing uncoupled entries...
I’ll take CB over TP any day and twice on Belmont
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Hey TiffaniO
I guess Pletcher struck first with a punch in the face as #5 Prince Lucky $48.40 across the board!!!
I don’t think Brown can come back and have a bigger answer for that bomb today!!!
We’ll see what’s happens!!!
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06-09-2018, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOracle
Hey TiffaniO
I guess Pletcher struck first with a punch in the face as #5 Prince Lucky $48.40 across the board!!!
I don’t think Brown can come back and have a bigger answer for that bomb today!!!
We’ll see what’s happens!!!
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Price wise yes...
But I look for a few big wins from CB coming up in the pick 4 sequence!
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06-09-2018, 03:15 PM
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Team Baffert.
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06-09-2018, 03:29 PM
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Team Baffert.
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Hey CJ
Baffert has these today at Belmont
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RowNum: Date: Race: PgmNum: Horse: RaceCond: Distance: Trainer: Odds: Surface
1 06-09-2018 3rd race 6 Abel Tasman (KY) Stakes One And One Sixteenth Miles B Baffert 8/5# Dirt
2 06-09-2018 5th race 2 Hoppertunity (KY) Stakes One and One Half Miles B Baffert 5/2# Dirt
3 06-09-2018 11th race 1 Justify (KY) Stakes One and One Half Miles B Baffert 4/5# Dirt
4 06-09-2018 11th race 5 Restoring Hope (KY) Stakes One and One Half Miles B Baffert 30/1# Dirt
Considering that Baffert has 2 wins already today I don’t think #1 Justify will get it done although #5 Restoring Hope would be a huge price and that would be the only shot he has of overtaking Pletcher today per $2 win place and show wager!!!
We’ll see what happens!!!
Last edited by TheOracle; 06-09-2018 at 03:42 PM.
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06-09-2018, 11:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Who will you root for Team Pletcher or Team Brown?
Pletcher's Team
Brown's Team
Should be interesting!!!
I guess this is the new norm for racing!!!
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Team Pletcher beat team Brown in terms of less loss percentage per $2 win place and show wager
Pletcher had the better return per $2 win wager at 25%
If Gronko could have gotten the win Brown would have beaten Pletcher without a doubt
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06-09-2018, 11:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Team Baffert.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Hey CJ
Baffert has these today at Belmont
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RowNum: Date: Race: PgmNum: Horse: RaceCond: Distance: Trainer: Odds: Surface
1 06-09-2018 3rd race 6 Abel Tasman (KY) Stakes One And One Sixteenth Miles B Baffert 8/5# Dirt
2 06-09-2018 5th race 2 Hoppertunity (KY) Stakes One and One Half Miles B Baffert 5/2# Dirt
3 06-09-2018 11th race 1 Justify (KY) Stakes One and One Half Miles B Baffert 4/5# Dirt
4 06-09-2018 11th race 5 Restoring Hope (KY) Stakes One and One Half Miles B Baffert 30/1# Dirt
Considering that Baffert has 2 wins already today I don’t think #1 Justify will get it done although #5 Restoring Hope would be a huge price and that would be the only shot he has of overtaking Pletcher today per $2 win place and show wager!!!
We’ll see what happens!!!
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Hey CJ
You were right Team Baffert was 2nd only to Motion for Trainers with multiple entries today in terms of win place and show returns per $2 wager across the board!!!
Below are the list of Trainers with positive win place and show returns for today's Belmont Stakes
I didn't think Justify would do it today but he proved us all wrong!!!
Last edited by TheOracle; 06-09-2018 at 11:40 PM.
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06-09-2018, 11:48 PM
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I hope he runs in the Travers at Saratoga so I can take a crack at beating him in the future!!!
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06-10-2018, 12:06 AM
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I could be wrong but purely on a head to Head basis, as the OP named the thread, I believe Chad Brown’s stable grossed more purse money than the TP Barn today...
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06-10-2018, 12:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TiffaniO
I could be wrong but purely on a head to Head basis, as the OP named the thread, I believe Chad Brown’s stable grossed more purse money than the TP Barn today...
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Hey TiffaniO,
I only go by returns on investment per $2 wager!!!
It's a real shame he gets the most purse money when only 3 of 11 in his barn hit the board!!!
This is some sport huh!!!
Can you imagine if other sports gave teams or players added money winning only 3 out of every 11 games?
Last edited by TheOracle; 06-10-2018 at 12:25 AM.
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06-10-2018, 12:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Hey TiffaniO,
I only go by returns on investment per $2 wager!!!
It's a real shame he gets the most purse money when only 3 of 11 in his barn hit the board!!!
This is some sport huh!!!
Can you imagine if other sports gave teams or players added money winning only 3 out of every 11 games?
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Well you didn’t state that in your original post... betting every single horse of any trainer is foolish. CB doesn’t give a darn about how much the horse pays on the tote, he cares about his 10% of the purse.
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06-10-2018, 12:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TiffaniO
Well you didn’t state that in your original post... betting every single horse of any trainer is foolish. CB doesn’t give a darn about how much the horse pays on the tote, he cares about his 10% of the purse.
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Yeah, I should have mentioned in that the post but per me I don't care about his purse money I just care about the tote payout per $2 wager usually across the board
Also, I try to see which Trainers are hot or cold in certain situations like Casse on the Turf prior to today's debacle
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06-10-2018, 12:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Yeah, I should have mentioned in that the post but per me I don't care about his purse money I just care about the tote payout per $2 wager usually across the board
Also, I try to see which Trainers are hot or cold in certain situations like Casse on the Turf prior to today's debacle
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Well on big days, you’ll notice certain trainers aren’t able to push the envelope like they can on a normal race day.
And for what it’s worth, TP only had 5 of 12 on the board and his only win was in a 150k stake. Basically the same as an allowance race today.
Last edited by TiffaniO; 06-10-2018 at 12:45 AM.
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