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Old 01-04-2018, 11:13 PM   #31
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So, let me get this straight. If I have an ADW account in any state besides Arizona I'll be able to bet on Turf Paradice. But if I live in Arizona, I have to trudge on down to the track or the nearest OTB.
Betting on Turf Paradice from the comfort of my own home. It doesn't get any better than that!
Breathe it in. Welcome to the good life! $3k claimers and 20% take.
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:42 AM   #32
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Lol at them claiming it wasnt good enough for us without internet and then saying the real reason is they made less money when people had an option to play elsewhere.

Such a fail state.
Right? What in god's name makes them think that full blown Internet wagering will somehow convince more people to go to the track and OTBs, while phone betting enticed them to stay home?

It's 2018. No one wants to go to your crappy OTBs. No one wants to drive out to your track on a Saturday afternoon, spending time and gas just to get gouged for parking and programs and concessions.

We can shop online. We can bank online. We can order food online. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to bet online. This state can either get with the times and give the people what they want...or watch its racing industry die out like the dinosaur that it is.

Saddest part is, as they keep circling the drain, they'll continue to blame everybody else but themselves. Idiots.
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Old 01-05-2018, 11:26 AM   #33
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I've considered Arizona as a retirement destination, seriously, but I'll never do it with the mess horse racing is in the state.
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Old 01-05-2018, 11:30 AM   #34
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I've considered Arizona as a retirement destination, seriously, but I'll never do it with the mess horse racing is in the state.
I have a feeling that New Jersey case could change a lot of laws in every state.
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Old 01-05-2018, 08:22 PM   #35
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This is the HUGE hidden cost of this insanity that people are actually NOT moving here or LEAVING the state of Arizona because we don't allow internet betting on the horses. Insane!
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Old 01-06-2018, 12:19 AM   #36
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Right? What in god's name makes them think that full blown Internet wagering will somehow convince more people to go to the track and OTBs, while phone betting enticed them to stay home?

It's 2018. No one wants to go to your crappy OTBs. No one wants to drive out to your track on a Saturday afternoon, spending time and gas just to get gouged for parking and programs and concessions.

We can shop online. We can bank online. We can order food online. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to bet online. This state can either get with the times and give the people what they want...or watch its racing industry die out like the dinosaur that it is.

Saddest part is, as they keep circling the drain, they'll continue to blame everybody else but themselves. Idiots.
You are dead on. The east valley is growing further and further south every day. A trip to the track is a heck of a drive for everyone out there. As I explained before the otbs just arent going to survive. You have to be a family friendly joint to make it and they dont want to take their kids there. Hell, I dont want to take my kids there. I live down south now and to place my BC wagers I went to the Tucson Oldfather Inn and had to bring my 6 year old and 6 month old with me. I felt like a dirtbag and the people there probably thought I was one as well.

Its not like there isnt demand here. The otbs get hammered with newbies and huge lines on big racing days. The racing commission only seems to be looking out for TuP, rather than growing racing in Arizona. I know there are problems with the tribes but there is no reason we should not have a track on par with a Santa Anita or GP and full internet wagering.

Every time I drive up the 101 and see the huge casino arizona and adjacent mlb spring training areas I wonder why the tribe didnt build one themselves right there.

Just an absolute pissing away of any revenue they could make from it.
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"I've considered Arizona as a retirement destination, seriously, but I'll never do it with the mess horse racing is in the state."

As have I, is New Mexico an ADW friendly state?
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I've continued to use my former CA addy since moving here. No issues depositing nor withdrawing funds nor placing wagers online. It's not rocket science. One site does ask me to confirm the state I'm currently placing wagers from but they never confirm my IP which they easily could. If they did I'd just use a VPN.

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Old 01-06-2018, 09:07 AM   #39
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I've continued to use my former CA addy since moving here. No issues depositing nor withdrawing funds nor placing wagers online. It's not rocket science. One site does ask me to confirm the state I'm currently placing wagers from but they never confirm my IP which they easily could. If they did I'd just use a VPN.
I did the same back when the law was initially passed. I am sure they will ramp up geolocation services once the state starts threatening felony charges against them again. That will no doubt be trotted out on the 10th, if it hasnt already.

Same reasons dfs wont touch us. Legal nightmare.

Tight life az.

Ps.. were you an old dmff'er?

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Old 01-06-2018, 09:16 AM   #40
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they will get the adw's back when they are allowed to charge a source marketing fee. my guess is that this is what its all about, once they get it they will try to close down the otb's.
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I've continued to use my former CA addy since moving here. No issues depositing nor withdrawing funds nor placing wagers online. It's not rocket science. One site does ask me to confirm the state I'm currently placing wagers from but they never confirm my IP which they easily could. If they did I'd just use a VPN.
I am considering this but in Ky at my in laws, then just vpn it.
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I did the same back when the law was initially passed. I am sure they will ramp up geolocation services once the state starts threatening felony charges against them again. That will no doubt be trotted out on the 10th, if it hasnt already.

Same reasons dfs wont touch us. Legal nightmare.

Tight life az.

Ps.. were you an old dmff'er?
I've been doing it for seven years since I moved here long before AZ allowed phone wagering with no issues whatsoever.

PPS: Yes and who are you calling old?!?
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Old 01-06-2018, 11:41 AM   #43
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I lurked there for years. I miss that place! Lirm, Vince, Ogy, Ramon Sanchez' Mustache. Shame that creep had to spoil the fun. Still not sure why they caved, its a forum for gods sakes.
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PM me. AG has setup a room on Chatzy for a few of us degens.
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I recall Crazykid as a poster of some insight as well. Specifically he was adamant on George Weaver at Saratoga.
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