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01-23-2018, 02:03 AM
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SCOTUS takes another bite out of 2nd Amendment
The Supreme Court voted 7-2 to decline to hear an appeal of a 9th Circus Court ruling on a California law on concealed carry.
The California law states that concealed carry permits would not be issued to anyone unless they could prove to local officials that they faced some level of danger above and beyond that of the average citizen. Challenges to the law said that law-abiding gun owners in in San Diego, Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay area found it difficult if not impossible to meet the criteria demanded by local authorities. Hard to believe, the 9th Circus rejected the challenge to the law.
Justices Thomas and Gorsuch filed a written dissent to the ruling, unusual when the Court declines to hear an appeal.
https://hotair.com/archives/2017/06/...-v-california/
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01-23-2018, 08:50 AM
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the solution for them is really easy. move the hell out of that shit hole
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01-23-2018, 11:45 AM
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Doesn't just living in the S-Hole state meet the criteria they want???
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01-23-2018, 12:06 PM
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Doesn't just living in the S-Hole state meet the criteria they want???
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Only in the real world.
In the Peoples Republic of California, the local authorities are no doubt correct under the law. It would be difficult for anyone to prove that they faced some level of danger above and beyond that of the average citizen, given that the main source of danger is the government.
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01-23-2018, 12:28 PM
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Sad the Kourt got is so wrong.
What causes people to be so totally stupid?
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01-23-2018, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Sad the Kourt got is so wrong.
What causes people to be so totally stupid?
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The 9th Court was right this out. SCOTUS agreeing says so.
7-2 is an overwhelming rejection of the writ.
sorry them is the facts.
concealed carry of a firearm is NOT a right.
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01-23-2018, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by biggestal99
The 9th Court was right this out. SCOTUS agreeing says so.
7-2 is an overwhelming rejection of the writ.
sorry them is the facts.
concealed carry of a firearm is NOT a right.
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Have you ever actually read the Second Amendment?
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01-23-2018, 03:36 PM
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Here in Missouri and Kansas, you don't even need a permit to carry a concealed weapon, you just need to be able to legally to own the gun. 
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01-23-2018, 03:46 PM
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Have you ever actually read the Second Amendment?
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Have you? Especially the part about a "Well regulated militia."
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Let's look at that first phrase. A well regulated militia means a militia under the control of the government, not a bunch of gomers in rural Idaho.
The second phrase speaks to the reason for the amendment which is the security of a free State. You having a gun does nothing to ensure the security of the free State. Not only that but your one-or ten-silly little guns does nothing to protect you from a tyrannical state.
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01-23-2018, 03:55 PM
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concealed carry of a firearm is NOT a right.
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...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
So it IS legal to carry them openly, so sayeth the Constitution.
OK, so wear them a sidearms.
The court is wrong.
Not unusual.
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01-23-2018, 03:59 PM
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Have you? Especially the part about a "Well regulated militia."
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Let's look at that first phrase. A well regulated militia means a militia under the control of the government, not a bunch of gomers in rural Idaho.
The second phrase speaks to the reason for the amendment which is the security of a free State. You having a gun does nothing to ensure the security of the free State. Not only that but your one-or ten-silly little guns does nothing to protect you from a tyrannical state.
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If you know any history then you would realize that the founding fathers stated that the people as a whole are the militia. They made it absolutely clear.
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01-23-2018, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by zico20
If you know any history then you would realize that the founding fathers stated that the people as a whole are the militia. They made it absolutely clear.
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And the militia was necessary to keep the state honest. 
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01-23-2018, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by zico20
If you know any history then you would realize that the founding fathers stated that the people as a whole are the militia. They made it absolutely clear.
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He prefers his own history written on small white square sheets in the ladies room.
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01-23-2018, 05:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
The 9th Court was right this out. SCOTUS agreeing says so.
7-2 is an overwhelming rejection of the writ.
sorry them is the facts.
concealed carry of a firearm is NOT a right.
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Come and take it
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01-23-2018, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
Have you? Especially the part about a "Well regulated militia."
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Still beating that dead horse, eh? Maybe you should get a gun too.
First, "regulated" at that time did not mean what it largely means today. There is plenty of documentation, which I am not going to post here yet again, that "well regulated" at that time meant in proper working order and functioning the way it should.
Second, it has been well established under law that the second part of the amendment is independent of, and not conditional to, the first part.
Many top liberal law experts who don't like the 2nd Amendment have stated that it is nonetheless an unconditional legal right. For example:
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During a recent appearance on Newsmax TV, Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz said the Second Amendment is an “absurd thing” in our constitution and that our legal framework needs to be adjusted “to create a presumption against gun ownership instead of a presumption in favor of gun ownership.”
"If I could write the Bill of Rights over again, I would skip amendment number two. We’re the only country in the world that puts in our Constitution the right to bear arms. It’s an absurd thing to be in our Constitution, but it’s in our Constitution. We have to live with it."
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-constitution/
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