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08-06-2017, 10:58 AM
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Team Pletcher crushed Team Brown @SAR yesterday -- 14 entries between them!!!
These two trainers had 14 entries between them yesterday but in terms of return on investment Pletcher's horses crushed Brown's horses
If you wagered on Pletcher's horses across the board yesterday you got a 22% return on your money per $2 win place and show wager
Also, if you played his horses to show you got a 41% return on your money per $2 show wager which was much more than you would have gotten playing his horses to win yesterday!!!
Brown's horses went 0 for 7 and only 3 hit the board!!!
All you got for playing his horses was heartache and negative returns for the day!!!
So Pletcher 22, Brown 0
It's really a shame when 2 trainers account for 14% of the total number of horses entered on a card!!!
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08-09-2017, 05:22 PM
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6 of the 7 Brown entries on Stakes
vs 1 for Pletcher.
So stats not apples to apples.
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08-09-2017, 05:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n.c
vs 1 for Pletcher.
So stats not apples to apples.
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Hey N C
Yeah, I guess I just get annoyed when Brown enters horses in Stakes races just to line his pockets with the purse money.
It seems to me he doesn't really care that his horses hit the board or anything in Stakes races just as long as he picks up whatever purse money he can especially when there are 2 or 3 of his horses in the race.
I've seen him do that in several times in years past.
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08-09-2017, 06:08 PM
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pletcher entry that has been off for 6 months
but has raced in stakes company before, is been p laced in a aoc race coming back, dirt race= very good play.
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08-09-2017, 07:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n.c
but has raced in stakes company before, is been p laced in a aoc race coming back, dirt race= very good play.
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Yeah, I have to check that one out bro
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08-11-2017, 11:29 PM
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Brown and Pletcher
both have a Frankel sire coming up...Gidu on Monday for Pletcher and Sportswear with Brown on Saturday, race 6. Read in a Timeform article, few months back, that 40% win for first time out, first year for Frankel. So they come out running ....Monday is a sprint for Gidu.
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08-11-2017, 11:32 PM
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From timeform
FLYING START
When they came to the track, Frankel’s youngsters certainly hit the ground running. Cunco, his first ever representative, won on his debut, as did four of his next five. Frankel ended the season with a strike-rate of 40% for newcomers, which is much higher than any other sire in the last fifteen years, albeit from a small sample.
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08-11-2017, 11:36 PM
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From timeform
There could be a number of reasons for Frankel’s unusually high winners-to-runners percentage last year: the supposition that he's a very good sire, the suggestion that he sires precocious two-year-olds, the supposition that those two-year-olds were treated differently, or a combination of all those factors and more. Given the focus on all things Frankel, from the stud fee to the fertility rate and the price for a ‘gangly-legged foal’, there could well be weight behind the consideration that his juveniles were more primed and readied to win, for the pressures involved
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08-11-2017, 11:49 PM
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Pletcher so for in Saratoga, has 5
wins with 2 year olds, MSW...
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08-12-2017, 09:41 AM
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Quote:
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wins with 2 year olds, MSW...
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Hey bro Pletcher has 9 entered today at Saratoga before scratches and 1 MTO
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RowNum: Date: Race: PgmNum: Horse: RaceCond: Distance: Trainer: Odds: Surface
1 08-12-2017 2nd race 2 Airtouch (KY) Maiden Special Weight Seven Furlongs T A Pletcher 5/2# Dirt
2 08-12-2017 3rd race 5 Driven by Thunder (FL) Starter Allowance One Mile T A Pletcher 5/2# Turf
3 08-12-2017 4th race 1 Pure Silver (NY) Stakes Six And One Half Furlongs T A Pletcher 2/1# Dirt
4 08-12-2017 4th race 2 Stainless (KY) Stakes Six And One Half Furlongs T A Pletcher 8/1# Dirt
5 08-12-2017 5th race 4 Azar (KY) Claiming One And One Sixteenth Miles T A Pletcher 3/1# Turf
6 08-12-2017 6th race 3 Channel Cat (KY) Maiden Special Weight One And One Sixteenth Miles T A Pletcher 7/2# Turf
7 08-12-2017 6th race 16 Super Sermon (KY) (MTO) Maiden Special Weight One And One Sixteenth Miles T A Pletcher 5/2# Turf
8 08-12-2017 7th race 9 Coltandmississippi (KY) Maiden Special Weight Seven Furlongs T A Pletcher 2/1# Dirt
9 08-12-2017 10th race 2 American Patriot (KY) Stakes One Mile T A Pletcher 6/1# Turf
Let's see what his Maidens do today at the Spa
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08-12-2017, 09:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n.c
wins with 2 year olds, MSW...
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Hey bro
I didn't realize Pletcher's horses are winning at 45.8% when they are less than 3-1 in the Morning Line at Saratoga so far you are getting a 27% return per $2 win wager in this situation!!
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RowNum: Date: Race: PgmNum: Horse: RaceCond: Distance: Trainer: Odds: Surface
1 08-12-2017 2nd race 2 Airtouch (KY) Maiden Special Weight Seven Furlongs T A Pletcher 5/2# Dirt
2 08-12-2017 3rd race 5 Driven by Thunder (FL) Starter Allowance One Mile T A Pletcher 5/2# Turf
3 08-12-2017 4th race 1 Pure Silver (NY) Stakes Six And One Half Furlongs T A Pletcher 2/1# Dirt
4 08-12-2017 6th race 16 Super Sermon (KY) (MTO) Maiden Special Weight One And One Sixteenth Miles T A Pletcher 5/2# Turf
5 08-12-2017 7th race 9 Coltandmississippi (KY) Maiden Special Weight Seven Furlongs T A Pletcher 2/1# Dirt
I will be looking at these today!!!
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08-12-2017, 07:16 PM
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TP and Brown just battling it out
for Toga title. Both had like 20 wins and winning at a 30% clip.
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08-13-2017, 11:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Hey bro
I didn't realize Pletcher's horses are winning at 45.8% when they are less than 3-1 in the Morning Line at Saratoga so far you are getting a 27% return per $2 win wager in this situation!!
Code:
RowNum: Date: Race: PgmNum: Horse: RaceCond: Distance: Trainer: Odds: Surface
1 08-12-2017 2nd race 2 Airtouch (KY) Maiden Special Weight Seven Furlongs T A Pletcher 5/2# Dirt
2 08-12-2017 3rd race 5 Driven by Thunder (FL) Starter Allowance One Mile T A Pletcher 5/2# Turf
3 08-12-2017 4th race 1 Pure Silver (NY) Stakes Six And One Half Furlongs T A Pletcher 2/1# Dirt
4 08-12-2017 6th race 16 Super Sermon (KY) (MTO) Maiden Special Weight One And One Sixteenth Miles T A Pletcher 5/2# Turf
5 08-12-2017 7th race 9 Coltandmississippi (KY) Maiden Special Weight Seven Furlongs T A Pletcher 2/1# Dirt
I will be looking at these today!!!
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Pletcher had 2 winners from this list yesterday from among his horses with Morning Lines less than 3-1
These 2 came through #1 Pure Silver, #9 Coltandmississippi and paid a combined $28.20 across the board!!!
If you played all of his horses to win in this situation you made 76% on your money per $2 win wager!!!
Congratulations to those who saw the plays and were able to make a profit!!!
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