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Originally Posted by kyle r
Cognitive dissonance, Man. People know in their hearts something’s really, really wrong.
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So...you suffer from this CD disease?
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06-23-2023, 04:36 PM
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#257
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by Tom
TUCKER IS NOT REAL!
HE IS AN AI CREATION.
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I can believe it...he's pretty smart for a regular talking head...likely not human
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06-23-2023, 04:37 PM
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Was the point of this thread for us to realize that "Everything we believe is a Lie"...while everything that Kyle tells us is "the Truth"? 
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06-23-2023, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I can believe it...he's pretty smart for a regular talking head...likely not human
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Is there a way to interact with AI without giving a lot of personal information? I would like to try to short circuit one. I will start with asking questions that could have multiple correct answers and see what happens.
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06-23-2023, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt
Is there a way to interact with AI without giving a lot of personal information? I would like to try to short circuit one. I will start with asking questions that could have multiple correct answers and see what happens.
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Check out Legalman, America’s most trusted lawyer doing just that. https://player.captivate.fm/episode/...7-9cf59c2e1424
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06-23-2023, 05:18 PM
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Location: Western NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
TUCKER IS NOT REAL!
HE IS AN AI CREATION.
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06-23-2023, 06:57 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Go back on your meds
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iI think he needs to dial back on the Blue Chews. 
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06-23-2023, 07:00 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
So...you suffer from this CD disease?
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A new variant of the corona VIRUS!
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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06-25-2023, 02:24 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyle r
I would like to hear your answers.
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The question is paradoxical. - Everything you believe is a lie.
- You believe everything you believe is a lie.
- But you believe everything you believe is a lie.
- Therefore not everying you believe is a lie.
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06-25-2023, 02:36 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Actor
The question is paradoxical. - Everything you believe is a lie.
- You believe everything you believe is a lie.
- But you believe everything you believe is a lie.
- Therefore not everying you believe is a lie.
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Mind = Blown
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06-25-2023, 05:26 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: St. Louis suburb
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Actor
The question is paradoxical. - Everything you believe is a lie.
- You believe everything you believe is a lie.
- But you believe everything you believe is a lie.
- Therefore not everying you believe is a lie.
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It is easy to reject premise #2, and therefore #3.
Then the question stands.
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06-28-2023, 06:41 PM
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
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massively important
and dangerous even,
"Everything You Believe is a Lie".
Morpheus: Were you listening to me, Neo?
Or, were you looking at the woman in the red dress??
⚠ Your mind is not secure
Man is capable of genius.
However, we have a very primitive underlying way of thinking.
This primitive way of thinking is an innate thing. We were born with it. It's natural.
So familiar that it has become subtle, unnoticed, autopilot...,'boring' even.
I haven't seen this very important thing mentioned yet, so I went ahead and put some time into presentation, and hopefully some of you will participate and comment and discuss, debate, deride, degrade, debase, detcetera...
Israeli-American psychologist Daniel Kahneman does a solid job of teaching the fundamental ideas behind two of the ways our thinking works0, in his book; "Thinking Fast and Slow"
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06-28-2023, 07:49 PM
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
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⚠ Your mind is not secure
What Kahneman calls 'Fast Thinking' is our primitive vulnerability.
The propaganda stuff, the commercials/Television, ... manipulation, control, psychological operations, false flags, herd mentality to use more 'extreme' 'conspiracy theorist' terms "mind control","brainwashing"...
 all that shit! 
there are some different vulnerabilities...
one of the vulnerabilities is our susceptibility to 'Cognitive Bias'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_bias
There are many of these cognitive biases that are now common knowledge, and have their own name and definition.
there are many others that are innate biases, triggers, emotions... anything we use in that so called 'system1' 'fast' superficial way of thinking
these have been exploited for power and control throughout history
and in relatively recent times psychologists have studied and experimented to the point of mastery in order to serve the elite.
the study of these things is vast.
the publicly disseminated information, awareness, teaching in public schools  , ... the ' mitigation' of these things is relatively scarce.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_bias_mitigation = read this! if you are interested...
A large body of evidence[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] has established that a defining characteristic of cognitive biases is that they manifest automatically and unconsciously over a wide range of human reasoning, so even those aware of the existence of the phenomenon are unable to detect, let alone mitigate, their manifestation via awareness only.
Confirmation Bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
is a simple, popular one.
Say you look at the racing Program, and you see  "Bob Baffert" 9/2ml is training a MSW horse. You want to bet it. You basically decide to bet it.
So, then you look at TimeformUS Pace Projector and your horse is really screwed! Wire-to-wire type and projected 4th fastest in a HOT PACE field of 10 horses with a surprisingly tough '106' race rating... fk*it! what else?
Then you ignore that new information because it doesn't support your desire to Bet Baffert, and so, you look around for something that supports your bet. John Velazquez is riding and in mostly Preakness day stuff is 3 for his last 4, 75%!! when riding for Baffert!!... it's a BET!!! 
You could still win, but your bias made you think irrationally. You will almost certainly lose all of your bankroll if you use biased thinking over a long-term series of wagers.
⚠ Your mind is not secure
[*]"Mind control is the process by which individual or collective freedom of choice and action is compromised by agents or agencies that modify or distort perception, motivation, affect, cognition or behavioral outcomes. It is neither magical nor mystical, but a process that involves a set of basic social psychological principles. Conformity, compliance, persuasion, dissonance, reactance, guilt and fear arousal, modeling, and identification are some of the staple social influence ingredients well-studied in psychological experiments and field studies. In some combinations, they create a powerful crucible of extreme mental and behavioral manipulation when synthesized with several other real-world factors, such as charismatic, authoritarian leaders, dominant ideologies, social isolation, physical debilitation, induced phobias, and extreme threats or promised rewards that are typically deceptively orchestrated, over an extended time period in settings where they are applied intensively. A body of social science evidence shows that when systematically practiced by state-sanctioned police, military or destructive cults, mind control can induce false confessions, create converts who willingly torture or kill 'invented enemies,' and engage indoctrinated members to work tirelessly, give up their money—and even their lives—for 'the cause."
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