The coronavirus

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

The vaccine is not only worse than the virus it is a virus. Not for I.

What a totally IGNORANT statement

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

What a totally IGNORANT statement

Why should we care?

[Bubba From Miami]

Originally Posted by Jeff P

https://twitter.com/i/status/1417160118114869248


-jp

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He was wrong.

He corrected his error a couple hours later writing 60% of hospitalizations from Covid are currently from unvaccinated people.

[Jeff P]

Relation of prior statin and anti-hypertensive use to severity of disease among patients hospitalized with COVID-19: Findings from the American Heart Association’s COVID-19 Cardiovascular Disease Registry:
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0254635

Lori B. Daniels, Junting Ren, Kris Kumar, Quan M. Bui, Jing Zhang, Xinlian Zhang, Mariem A. Sawan, Howard Eisen, Christopher A. Longhurst, Karen Messer

Published: July 15, 2021 • https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0254635

Abstract

Background

Statins have anti-inflammatory and immunomodulatory effects that may reduce the severity of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), in which organ dysfunction is mediated by severe inflammation. Large studies with diverse populations evaluating statin use and outcomes in COVID-19 are lacking.

Methods and results

We used data from 10,541 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 through September 2020 at 104 US hospitals enrolled in the American Heart Association’s COVID-19 Cardiovascular Disease (CVD) Registry to evaluate the associations between statin use and outcomes. Prior to admission, 42% of subjects (n = 4,449) used statins (7% on statins alone, 35% on statins plus anti-hypertensives). Death (or discharge to hospice) occurred in 2,212 subjects (21%). Outpatient use of statins, either alone or with anti-hypertensives, was associated with a reduced risk of death (adjusted odds ratio [aOR] 0.59, 95% CI 0.50–0.69), adjusting for demographic characteristics, insurance status, hospital site, and concurrent medications by logistic regression. In propensity-matched analyses, use of statins and/or anti-hypertensives was associated with a reduced risk of death among those with a history of CVD and/or hypertension (aOR 0.68, 95% CI 0.58–0.81). An observed 16% reduction in odds of death among those without CVD and/or hypertension was not statistically significant.

Conclusions

Patients taking statins prior to hospitalization for COVID-19 had substantially lower odds of death, primarily among individuals with a history of CVD and/or hypertension. These observations support the continuation and aggressive initiation of statin and anti-hypertensive therapies among patients at risk for COVID-19, if these treatments are indicated based upon underlying medical conditions.

-jp

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[46zilzal]

No surprise as the pathology of Covid has a lot to do with the Angiotensinogen activation system in the kidneys

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full...NAHA.120.15948

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22713-z

[Rex Phinney]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

Florida now accounts for almost 20% o the new Covid infections, hmmmmmm
I WONDER WHY???

Probably because they never got it there as bad as all the experts predicted months ago.....


I for one do not deny that COVID is real or that it can greatly affect at risk people.


What I do have a HUGE problem with is the government acting like the precautions they enforce do a shit bit of good. We have been at this 18 months now, the evidence is pretty clear that the virus does what it wants. Us mere humans walking around acting like we can control it (mainly the government) is a bunch of horseshit.

Last year in California the before and after of the mask mandate was a joke, it didn't slow anything down. We kept kids out of schools, businesses closed all of this BS even though states that stayed open had the same numbers as those taking precautions.

This is America if you're afraid, stay inside your house, sit on your couch with 3 "I love Fauci" masks on and STFU. If someone chooses to go running through the streets spreading COVID that is their choice, no different than mowing down people with a car or a weapon. It sucks, and it makes them a dumbass, but it's the price of Freedom.

[Rex Phinney]

Originally Posted by Bubba From Miami

He was wrong.

He corrected his error a couple hours later writing 60% of hospitalizations from Covid are currently from unvaccinated people.

Sounds like a great success rate.......

[Bubba From Miami]

Originally Posted by Rex Phinney

Sounds like a great success rate.......

thanks for that

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Bubba From Miami

He was wrong.

He corrected his error a couple hours later writing 60% of hospitalizations from Covid are currently from unvaccinated people.

Then 40% are unvaccinayed.
Significant.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

Do I see people falling ILL from Covid in the vaccinated group, OR are the mainstay of NEW cases the fools who are antivaxxer's?

Why are you changing the subject.

Did you or did you not willingly take a vaccine into your body that had zero LONG TERM STUDIES?!?!?!?!

Of course you did. Just answer the damn question with a solid, factual YES!

You are vaccinated.

And there were no LONG TERM STUDIES for these vaccines prior to release to the public.

End of story.

Yet you'll spout some BULLSHIT about there being no LONG TERM STUDIES associated with Ivermectin and COVID-19. Like it matters! (it doesn't...since you were willing to take the vaccine that also had ZERO LONG TERM STUDIES).

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

No I document FACTS, you clowns live in a dreamworld of you own making

Here's a fact.

You took two doses of a vaccine that had ZERO LONG TERM STUDIES associated with it.

But you'll tell us what a joke Ivermectin is because it has no long term studies. LMAO

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Bubba From Miami

He was wrong.

He corrected his error a couple hours later writing 60% of hospitalizations from Covid are currently from unvaccinated people.

Registered in 5/2020, but just starts posting this month, and all seven posts thus far are in off-topic.

Hilarious.

Ladies and gentlemen, may I present you another person who, despite publicly stating what a shithole this site is, they somehow just can NEVER STAY AWAY!

I love it!

Thank you!

[46zilzal]

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/10170...e-unvaccinated

quote: More than 99% of recent deaths were among the unvaccinated, infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said earlier this month on NBC's Meet the Press, while Walensky noted on Friday that unvaccinated people accounted for over 97% of hospitalizations.

[davew]

Originally Posted by Tom

Then 40% are unvaccinayed.
Significant.

the UK guy misspoke - 60% of those hospitalized have not been vaccinated, 40% have their completed shot regime


those numbers won't happen in US, as CDC is not counting vaccinated as covid, going with the underlying condition this time.

the 300+ under 18 that have died in US, all had previous health conditions like leukemia.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/10170...e-unvaccinated

quote: More than 99% of recent deaths were among the unvaccinated, infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said earlier this month on NBC's Meet the Press, while Walensky noted on Friday that unvaccinated people accounted for over 97% of hospitalizations.

Cool. So those of us who are vaccinated have ZERO to worry about...

But...then why the sudden panic? Why did the markets shit themselves today over fears of a COVID LOCKDOWN PART II?

So confusing.

Vaccine good...but not good?