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Old 06-28-2022, 11:58 AM   #61
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I have to admit to not really understanding the screengrabs you post without explanation but for what I've gathered your method relies on some combination of board odds, ML, and will-pays?

I have to imagine that one confounding factor would be late money and your ability to lock your bets and get them in before the bell rings--and the gap of time after that before final pools are known?
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I have to admit to not really understanding the screengrabs you post without explanation but for what I've gathered your method relies on some combination of board odds, ML, and will-pays?

I have to imagine that one confounding factor would be late money and your ability to lock your bets and get them in before the bell rings--and the gap of time after that before final pools are known?
its a valid point
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Old 06-28-2022, 04:40 PM   #63
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new proposition bet offering

you pick the top horse in the exacta, i tell you how much to bet in the exacta for each selected place horse.

if your horse wins at odds of say 5-1 I play you 5 X 15% , or $ 5.75-1 odds, now if your exacta play returns more than $5.57 -1 odds you pay me the difference
lets see how that works out.
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Old 06-29-2022, 09:02 AM   #64
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UK Worcester*	Race 3		 	 	
YOUR WIN pgno	PLACE pgno	$ BET SIZE	pgno	pgno	BET $
2	1	1	6	1	1
2	2	    	6	2	6
2	3	2	6	3	2
2	4	8	6	4	8
2	5	1	6	5	1
2	6	0	6	6	    
2	7	2	6	7	2
2	8	0	6	8	0
2	9	0	6	9	0
2	10	0	6	10	0
2	11	0	6	11	0
2	12	0	6	12	0
2	13	0	6	13	0
2	14	0	6	14	0
2	15	0	6	15	0
2	16	0	6	16	0
32.37	#VALUE!	13.41			18.96
TOTAL	TOTAL	#VALUE!			
BET	RETURN	$1 return
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Old 06-29-2022, 09:11 AM   #65
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UK Musselburg*	Race 2		 	 	
YOUR WIN pgno	PLACE pgno	$ BET SIZE	pgno	pgno	BET $
1	1	0	5	1	0
1	2	1	5	2	1
1	3	2	5	3	2
1	4	0	5	4	0
1	5	0	5	5	    
1	6	0	5	6	0
1	7	0	5	7	0
1	8	0	5	8	0
1	9	0	5	9	0
1	10	0	5	10	0
1	11	0	5	11	0
1	12	0	5	12	0
1	13	0	5	13	0
1	14	0	5	14	0
1	15	0	5	15	0
1	16	0	5	16	0
6.59	#VALUE!	3.29			3.29
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Old 06-29-2022, 01:44 PM   #66
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Churchill Downs*	Race 3		 	 	
YOUR WIN pgno	PLACE pgno	$ BET SIZE	pgno	pgno	BET $
4	1	8	5	1	8
4	2	0	5	2	0
4	3	6	5	3	6
4	4	    	5	4	0
4	5	10	5	5	    
4	6	0	5	6	0
4	7	0	5	7	0
4	8	0	5	8	0
4	9	0	5	9	0
4	10	0	5	10	0
4	11	0	5	11	0
4	12	0	5	12	0
4	13	0	5	13	0
4	14	0	5	14	0
4	15	0	5	15	0
4	16	0	5	16	0
38.97	#VALUE!	24.26			14.71
TOTAL	TOTAL	#VALUE!			
BET	RETURN	$1 return
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:08 PM   #67
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Finger Lakes*	Race 5		 	 	
YOUR WIN pgno	PLACE pgno	$ BET SIZE	pgno	pgno	BET $
1	1	16	4	1	16
1	2	29	4	2	29
1	3	11	4	3	11
1	4	0	4	4	    
1	5	0	4	5	0
1	6	0	4	6	0
1	7	0	4	7	0
1	8	0	4	8	0
1	9	0	4	9	0
1	10	0	4	10	0
1	11	0	4	11	0
1	12	0	4	12	0
1	13	0	4	13	0
1	14	0	4	14	0
1	15	0	4	15	0
1	16	0	4	16	0
111.96	#VALUE!	55.98			55.98
TOTAL	TOTAL	#VALUE!			
BET	RETURN	$1 return
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Old 06-29-2022, 04:33 PM   #68
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Horseshoe Indianapolis*	Race 5		 	 	
YOUR WIN pgno	PLACE pgno	$ BET SIZE	pgno	pgno	BET $
8	1	0	3	1	0
8	2	0	3	2	0
8	3	0	3	3	    
8	4	9	3	4	9
8	5	22	3	5	22
8	6	0	3	6	0
8	7	5	3	7	5
8	8	    	3	8	0
8	9	0	3	9	0
8	10	0	3	10	0
8	11	0	3	11	0
8	12	0	3	12	0
8	13	0	3	13	0
8	14	0	3	14	0
8	15	0	3	15	0
8	16	0	3	16	0
73.51	#VALUE!	36.76			36.76
TOTAL	TOTAL	#VALUE!
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 Horseshoe Indianapolis*	Race 7		 	 	
YOUR WIN pgno	PLACE pgno	$ BET SIZE	pgno	pgno	BET $
7	1	0	2	1	0
7	2	0	2	2	    
7	3	0	2	3	0
7	4	13	2	4	13
7	5	0	2	5	0
7	6	45	2	6	45
7	7	    	2	7	0
7	8	0	2	8	0
7	9	2	2	9	2
7	10	0	2	10	0
7	11	0	2	11	0
7	12	0	2	12	0
7	13	0	2	13	0
7	14	0	2	14	0
7	15	0	2	15	0
7	16	0	2	16	0
121.54	0.00	60.77			60.77
TOTAL	TOTAL	$0.00			
BET	RETURN	$1 return
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Horseshoe Indianapolis*	Race 8		 	 			
YOUR WIN pgno	PLACE pgno	$ BET SIZE	pgno	pgno	BET $	pgno	pgno
7	1	1	11	1	1	4	1
7	2	0	11	2	0	4	2
7	3	2	11	3	2	4	3
7	4	1	11	4	1	4	4
7	5	0	11	5	0	4	5
7	6	0	11	6	0	4	6
7	7	    	11	7	0	4	7
7	8	0	11	8	0	4	8
7	9	2	11	9	2	4	9
7	10	0	11	10	0	4	10
7	11	0	11	11	    	4	11
7	12	0	11	12	0	4	12
7	13	0	11	13	0	4	13
7	14	0	11	14	0	4	14
7	15	0	11	15	0	4	15
7	16	0	11	16	0	4	16
13.45	0.00	6.73			6.73		
TOTAL	TOTAL	$0.00					
BET	RETURN	$1 return
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Old 06-29-2022, 09:50 PM   #71
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Mountaineer Park*	Race 7		 	 	
YOUR WIN pgno	PLACE pgno	$ BET SIZE	pgno	pgno	BET $
1	1	0	6	1	56
1	2	88	6	2	88
1	3	1	6	3	1
1	4	0	6	4	0
1	5	8	6	5	8
1	6	0	6	6	    
1	7	5	6	7	5
1	8	0	6	8	0
1	9	0	6	9	0
1	10	0	6	10	0
1	11	0	6	11	0
1	12	0	6	12	0
1	13	0	6	13	0
1	14	0	6	14	0
1	15	0	6	15	0
1	16	0	6	16	0
258.56	0.00	101.42			157.15
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Old 06-30-2022, 12:33 PM   #72
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Gulfstream*	Race 1		 	 	
YOUR WIN pgno	PLACE pgno	$ BET SIZE	pgno	pgno	BET $
1	1	0	7	1	0
1	2	7	7	2	7
1	3	2	7	3	2
1	4	1	7	4	1
1	5	0	7	5	0
1	6	1	7	6	1
1	7	324	7	7	    
1	8	0	7	8	0
1	9	0	7	9	0
1	10	0	7	10	0
1	11	0	7	11	0
1	12	0	7	12	0
1	13	0	7	13	0
1	14	0	7	14	0
1	15	0	7	15	0
1	16	0	7	16	0
349.73	0.00	337.10			12.63
TOTAL	TOTAL	$0.00
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Old 06-30-2022, 12:58 PM   #73
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Tampa Bay Downs*	Race 3		 	 	
YOUR WIN pgno	PLACE pgno	$ BET SIZE	pgno	pgno	BET $
6	1	2	9	1	2
6	2	1	9	2	1
6	3	0	9	3	0
6	4	6	9	4	6
6	5	0	9	5	0
6	6	    	9	6	1
6	7	26	9	7	26
6	8	0	9	8	0
6	9	0	9	9	    
6	10	0	9	10	0
6	11	0	9	11	0
6	12	0	9	12	0
6	13	0	9	13	0
6	14	0	9	14	0
6	15	0	9	15	0
6	16	0	9	16	0
72.26	0.00	35.61			36.66
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Gulfstream*	Race 5		 	 		
WIN pgno	PLACE pgno	$ BET SIZE	WIN pgno	pgno	BET $	pgno
1	1	0	8	1	0	3
1	2	2	8	2	2	3
1	3	0	8	3	0	3
1	4	4	8	4	4	3
1	5	3	8	5	3	3
1	6	2	8	6	2	3
1	7	1	8	7	1	3
1	8	0	8	8	    	3
1	9	1	8	9	1	3
1	10	0	8	10	0	3
1	11	0	8	11	0	3
1	12	0	8	12	0	3
1	13	0	8	13	0	3
1	14	0	8	14	0	3
1	15	0	8	15	0	3
1	16	0	8	16	0	3
26.08	9.77	13.04			13.04	
TOTAL	TOTAL	$0.37				
BET	RETURN	$1 return
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Old 06-30-2022, 03:44 PM   #75
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Would you be willing to take a moment and explain one of the charts you're posting? Like literally exactly what each column/row represents.

edited to add that I do see in your most recent chart that you at least added the notes at the bottom identifying TOTAL BET and TOTAL RETURN.

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