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11-17-2022, 10:29 AM
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Russian missile that hit Poland turned out to be a Ukrainian missile
That didn't stop the powers that be (including Zelensky himself) from flexing us closer to war with Russia...nah...these are the people controlling the fate of the world...it's actually unbelievable when you think about it.
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11-17-2022, 12:23 PM
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Today a news story was about Russia's responsibility for downing an aircraft.
Deflection much?
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11-17-2022, 01:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jocko699
Today a news story was about Russia's responsibility for downing an aircraft.
Deflection much?
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the one in 2014?
that uKrainian defense missile was probably from US in one way or the other
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11-17-2022, 03:43 PM
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What seems to be confirmed is it was a S300. So we'll find out eventually. Doesn't really matter.
People are making more out of this than there really is. They were even before this information was known.
Like I said in the Ukraine thread this leads to increased NATO CAP, more Patriot PAC-3 and THAAD, and more ADS to Ukraine.
The origin of the missile is irrelevant to that outcome and anyone talking about Article 5 wasn't a serious person anyway.
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11-17-2022, 04:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
The origin of the missile is irrelevant to that outcome and anyone talking about Article 5 wasn't a serious person anyway.
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You mean like Zelensky?
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11-17-2022, 05:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
What seems to be confirmed is it was a S300. So we'll find out eventually. Doesn't really matter.
People are making more out of this than there really is. They were even before this information was known.
Like I said in the Ukraine thread this leads to increased NATO CAP, more Patriot PAC-3 and THAAD, and more ADS to Ukraine.
The origin of the missile is irrelevant to that outcome and anyone talking about Article 5 wasn't a serious person anyway.
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Bullshit, both sides suck and we should not borrow money to save Europe. Europe shouls pay into NATO more, I could give a rats ass how they provide socialism for their own.
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11-17-2022, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
You mean like Zelensky?
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COME ON MAN, he is a serious guy - the one on the left playing the high notes
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11-17-2022, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
You mean like Zelensky?
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I was not aware he made any statements about Article 5.
Please link them.
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11-17-2022, 08:21 PM
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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3...nt-escalation/
Sounds like Article 5 should be used against the liar Zelinsky.
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11-17-2022, 08:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
I was not aware he made any statements about Article 5.
Please link them.
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“Hitting NATO territory with missiles. … This is a Russian missile attack on collective security! This is a really significant escalation. Action is needed,” Zelensky said in a video address Tuesday.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3...nt-escalation/
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11-17-2022, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
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So he never mentions Article 5. I didn't think he did.
In other news did you see how the Russian Government and their propaganda machines reacted to this when it unfolded?
Was genuinely surprised at how... concerned... they were.
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11-17-2022, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
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Huh?
Nobody is invoking Article 5 over this but I'm curious how you have a problem with Zelensky...
At the end of day it wouldn't matter the flag on the side of those missiles anyway... its still Russia's fault.
Ukrainian S300s don't leave the tubes unless they're trying to intercept Russian inbounds.
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11-17-2022, 08:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
So he never mentions Article 5.
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LOL
ok
"This is a Russian missile attack on collective security!"
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11-17-2022, 08:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
So he never mentions Article 5. I didn't think he did.
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NATO + collective security = Article 5
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11-17-2022, 10:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
LOL
ok
"This is a Russian missile attack on collective security!"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xtb
NATO + collective security = Article 5
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I was aware of that particular quote before I asked.
Honestly thought maybe he'd said something else.
We definitely don't read that the same way.
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