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09-17-2017, 11:43 AM
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#1471
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09-17-2017, 10:05 PM
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#1472
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Open Mind stakes DQ
I didn't bet this race, but saw it and wanted to see the head on view of the DQ. Anybody lose money on the DQ?
I have to agree w/Watchmaker, this makes no sense
Per Watchmaker:
Ivy Bell, the 3-5 favorite in the Open Mind, slipped up on the rail inside of the pacesetter and second choice Mayla into the stretch, making what appeared to be a winning move. But Mayla, in response to that challenge, appeared to come in, appeared to put Ivy Bell in tight on the rail, and then Ivy Bell appeared to clip heels, causing her to stumble badly and toss jockey Brian Hernandez Jr. to the ground. Thank goodness Hernandez was uninjured, and Ivy Bell never actually fell.
There are a lot of “appeareds” in the above paragraph. Here’s why: I, and the vast majority of everyone else who watched the Open Mind, still do not have any idea of what really happened between Mayla and Ivy Bell in upper stretch because Churchill Downs never bothered to show the all-critical head-on shot of the stretch run.
http://www.drf.com/news/watchmaker-b...cation-replays
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10-02-2017, 05:46 PM
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#1473
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Slope Handicapping ™
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That was borderline criminal what happened in the 1st at Presque isle. Impossible to tell who really was at fault, no objection from jockey, didn't affect order of finish, yet they dq the 8. unreal.
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10-05-2017, 03:23 PM
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#1474
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Location: Moore, OK
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After the DQ at Belmont today, R5, I think I'm going to become one of those pretty horse fans. I don't need this aggravation.
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10-05-2017, 03:36 PM
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#1475
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
Sorry CJ, however I thought it was a 50-50 coin flip, it just seems to always go the wrong way when you really need it.
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I just don't see where that horse was ever going by the 5. If the stewards had any consistency I could live with it, but they don't. Sometimes I wonder if they actually do flip a coin.
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10-05-2017, 03:40 PM
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#1476
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Buckle Up
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
After the DQ at Belmont today, R5, I think I'm going to become one of those pretty horse fans. I don't need this aggravation.
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Sorry CJ, however I thought it was a 50-50 coin flip, it just seems to always go the wrong way when you really need it....BTW, the stewards were considering placing the horse in 4th, because of the chain reaction that had some effect on the horse losing a placing to the ....They declined on that decision, as that's what took so long for the result to finally become a DQ of just one spot.
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10-05-2017, 03:41 PM
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#1477
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Location: Nebraska
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
I just don't see where that horse was ever going by the 5. If the stewards had any consistency I could live with it, but they don't. Sometimes I wonder if they actually do flip a coin.
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Agree here, but when the race was over, the only thought i had was " they are going to flip this because it is Ortiz and Brown on the . Ortiz has squeezed plenty of horses like that, and not been taken down. 0 consistency.
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10-05-2017, 03:44 PM
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#1478
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jay68802
Agree here, but when the race was over, the only thought i had was " they are going to flip this because it is Ortiz and Brown on the . Ortiz has squeezed plenty of horses like that, and not been taken down. 0 consistency.
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Exactly, flip connections and it is as is IMO.
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10-05-2017, 04:25 PM
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#1479
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Location: Nebraska
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Exactly, flip connections and it is as is IMO.
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But they were really nice and let Kenndrick win the next race on the front with 0 pressure.
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10-08-2017, 06:55 PM
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How in the world could there not have been an inquiry in the Kee 2yo race? Good thing an objection finally happened.
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10-08-2017, 07:01 PM
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#1481
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
How in the world could there not have been an inquiry in the Kee 2yo race? Good thing an objection finally happened.
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That was amazing, the showed the head on replay on TVG and it was obvious DQ. Took forever before they announced there was an objection.
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10-09-2017, 08:30 PM
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#1482
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No inquiry or objection in the 5th race today(Monday) at Santa Anita?
The 8 came in some so it would have been a close call but it was obvious from the pan shot there was contact late stretch and they dont even call for an inquiry?
SERIOUSLY what are they paying these stewards in California to do?
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10-09-2017, 09:13 PM
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#1483
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dasch
No inquiry or objection in the 5th race today(Monday) at Santa Anita?
The 8 came in some so it would have been a close call but it was obvious from the pan shot there was contact late stretch and they dont even call for an inquiry?
SERIOUSLY what are they paying these stewards in California to do?
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The 8 lost. No need for an inquiry. There may have been one if the 8 had won. I thought he was 2/5 at the 1/8th pole.
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10-11-2017, 07:58 PM
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#1484
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ronsmac
The 8 lost. No need for an inquiry. There may have been one if the 8 had won. I thought he was 2/5 at the 1/8th pole.
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If you think the 8 was the only one that caused interference you obviously didnt watch the head on replay. Like I said it could have gone either way.
If there is POSSIBLE interference its THEIR JOB to call for an inquiry, not only if the horse YOU THINK interfered doesnt win.
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10-18-2017, 05:40 PM
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#1485
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Coming up on 100 pages of complaints about stewards rulings. Well done PA users!
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