Conditional wagering

[atlasaxis]

Been waiting forever for twinspires to get this corrected. Are there any other ADWs that offer conditional wagering? Thank you.

[trifecta]

Originally Posted by atlasaxis

Been waiting forever for twinspires to get this corrected. Are there any other ADWs that offer conditional wagering? Thank you.

XpressBet does.

[Parson]

AMWAGER does as well

[Gorrex]

AmWager's conditional system stands out from others for a few reasons.

1. Our conditional system checks continuously to see if all conditions are true. Most systems check once at your specified minutes to post.. which means its possible your odds conditions become true later and you miss out.
2. We allow multiple odds/payout conditions per wager which means you can create a range condition.
3. We do not lock the conditions to the wager pool. This means its possible to construct "fair value" conditions on more complex pools.

And as always.. if there is something we have not thought of that would make the system better tell us and we will get it built.

[Gorrex]

Also.. if anyone ever needs a walkthrough or help with our systems reach out to me or support@amwager.com.

[Prof.Factor]

Been with Twinspires since it's inception. They called me when the Conditional wagering feature was being dropped. My guess is it had something to with Kentucky Derby overload. Anyways, I will be making my first visit to AMWAGER today. The conditional wager feature is huge to me.Thanks for the info.

[Partsnut]

Hi Tom,


Xpress bet has conditional Wagering.

[green80]

conditional wagering is the way to go, I don't bet without using it

[sharkey11]

this is all fine an good but untill the tracks an adws get together and lock all bets when the gate opens then all bettors will be either holding tickets they dont want or not holding tickets they want when the odds change as horses run up to the half mile call or more and an odds flash occures ! does anyone rember the bell ringers

[JeremyJet]

Originally Posted by atlasaxis

Been waiting forever for twinspires to get this corrected.

Check your email. The long wait is over.

[Track Collector]

Originally Posted by Gorrex

AmWager's conditional system stands out from others for a few reasons.

1. Our conditional system checks continuously to see if all conditions are true. Most systems check once at your specified minutes to post.. which means its possible your odds conditions become true later and you miss out.
2. We allow multiple odds/payout conditions per wager which means you can create a range condition.
3. We do not lock the conditions to the wager pool. This means its possible to construct "fair value" conditions on more complex pools.

And as always.. if there is something we have not thought of that would make the system better tell us and we will get it built.

How much delay is there between the AmWest platform and the actual track when it both respectively show zero minutes to post?

The reason I am asking is that I have noticed up to a 90+ seconds difference with another ADW who offers conditional wagering. In other words, when their platform first displays zero minutes to post (which is the time they would place one's 0 MTP conditional wager), it takes sometimes up to another 90+ seconds before the live track displays 0 MTP. This means that this particular ADW actually submits 0 MTP conditional wagers at almost 2 MTP, and it may even be done by design.

I recognize that odds do change significantly AFTER 0 MTP, but adding on almost 2 more full minutes IMO makes things exponentially worse when the 0 MTP conditional wager also contains a minimum or maximum odds requirement.

And in a related question, does AmWest allow conditional wagers to first be evaluated at intervals like 30 seconds after 0 MTP, 60 seconds after 0 MTP, etc.?

[Gorrex]

Pretty much all ADWs (including us) show 0 MTP at anything under 60 seconds to scheduled post time.

Some video feeds ADD time to the scheduled post time, others subtract it. In general the video feed rarely ever matches the actual post time set by the on track tote personnel. Its all the mutuels department at that track trying to get the most bets in... They still generally think about on track only even though 80% of their business is somewhere else.

[Gorrex]

And in AmWager conditional wagers are evaluated every 20 seconds at a minimum.