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Old 08-10-2020, 10:24 AM   #91
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These Travers splits provide solid confidence the horse can handle 10F with ease. Tiz did not slow down as the race progressed.
24.71, 23.59, 24.47, 24.53

He can be near the engine and just outrun everyone. It is the Derby and weird stuff can happen. Perhaps biggest concern is getting inside draw and getting pinned but that's pretty much the case with most Derby runners. Possible he doesn't respond as well to wet track, albeit the Jockey Club was so long ago now it could have been an aberration.

You will certainly get paid very well if you can beat him.
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I'm not trying to make a case against him. I'm trying to make the case that it was big effort but probably not as big as the hype.
New York version of California Chrome (won the 2014 SA Derby in much the same way w/ a similar BSF while on a massive win streak).

That isn't a complaint if he shows back up at 4 (or dare I say 5).

The problem is that the fractured Triple Crown is within his grasp since there is no Test of the Champion (ie 12 furlongs) on the ledger.

And when you compound that with this facile Travers win and the chatter about a Grand Slam or Quadruple Crown or whatever, if he wins both the Derby and the Preakness the likelihood of him stepping out as an older horse is minuscule at best.

Here's hoping Nobel Prize is some kind of dirt freak or--more realistically--Honor A.P. gets a new jockey...
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Jack Knowlton has already said Tiz the Law will race at four unless injured.
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Jack Knowlton has already said Tiz the Law will race at four unless injured.
Really? Color me shocked.........I thought the breeding rights were already sold?
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Jack Knowlton has already said Tiz the Law will race at four unless injured.
If the breeding money is good enough, he will be injured.
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Really? Color me shocked.........I thought the breeding rights were already sold?
Yes, already sold to Coolmore America/Ashford after the Belmont Stakes win. But Sackatoga retains control for his racing career, which Knowlton describes in the article below as "the remainder of his 3 yo year and beyond." They enjoyed Funny Cide for a few years of racing since he was a gelding - then it was a long time between drinks. Tagg is also not one who is able to simply look forward to the next load of crack 3yos in the barn. I'd say these older gentlemen will enjoy their good horse on the track for at least another year.

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would love to see Tiz the Law vs Gamine at a mile
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would love to see Tiz the Law vs Gamine at a mile
is there any pace in the race, if not I would take Gamine all day long.
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You will certainly get paid very well if you can beat him.
There's been a couple years where the chalk won, but with the rest bigger odds and the payouts were good. Of course, there will be those who do the Tiz, AP, Art and Authentic ticket, and might get $12 back. Hopefully there will be many who do just that, and put some money in the pools for the rest of us
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Right now the three year old crop is awful.
And every single year you can count on someone saying this.

About 20 distinct horses no less.

Every year.
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Is it bad that we haven't heard much on Tiz the Law regarding the Preakness?

I've seen a bunch of fans and commentors say that Tiz the Law should be pointed to the Preakness, but very little confirmation from the connections.
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Is it bad that we haven't heard much on Tiz the Law regarding the Preakness?

I've seen a bunch of fans and commentors say that Tiz the Law should be pointed to the Preakness, but very little confirmation from the connections.
Some interesting stuff here!

https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...on_pending_123
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thanks. Hadn't seen that.

Sounds like it is far from certain.

With the rush to breeding for Honor A. P., and the lack of positive hype on Tiz the Law returning in the Preakness, I've had an honest question as to whether he's really going to race in Baltimore. Seems quiet.

Hopefully Tiz the Law is reading this and "tells them" soon.
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Knowlton sounded as though he is still perplexed by Authentic’s ability to give Hall of Fame trainer Bob Baffert his record-tying sixth Derby triumph. The Into Mischief colt appeared to show distance limitations when he lacked punch during the stretch run and barely held off onrushing Ny Traffic in the July 18 Haskell at Monmouth Park, his last race before the Run for the Roses.

“Authentic, for whatever reason, went from gasping for air at a mile and an eighth in the Haskell to, you know, going a mile and a quarter like there was no tomorrow,” Knowlton said. “Nice job by Baffert. Hopefully, that’s the answer.”
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he wasnt gasping for air in that race. he started goofing around while not really being asked and the horse let up.

owners dont make the best handicappers most times.
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