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07-26-2019, 01:15 PM
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Nadler just held a presser to try to convince people that Mueller is not a doddering old fool who had no idea what was going on.
In his defense, I guess to people of Nadler's statue, Mueller looked amazingly intelligent.
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Certainly more intelligent than someone who doesn’t know the difference between statue and stature.
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07-26-2019, 01:26 PM
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07-26-2019, 04:00 PM
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07-26-2019, 04:58 PM
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In this country, we do not put people on trial to exonerate them.
Actually we do. A fundamental principle of our justice system is innocent until proven guilty. What you are wrong about is what happens before they go on trial. Mueller said several times over the course of his testimony that he would charge Trump after Trump left office. He also said several times that the only reason he did not charge him was because of the DOJ opinion that a president could not be charged with a crime while in office. (That is an whole other discussion which we will not go into here.)
We either
1. find a crime and then see who did it
2. see if a crime was committed.
This is what actually happens.
1 A crime is committed
2 Law enforcement investigates the crime and develops a list of suspects.
3 Law enforcement eliminates suspects based on available evidence. Those suspects are considered exonerated.
4. Those who are not exonerated are sent to trial. Being put on trial does not mean you are guilty. That is up to the jury to decide.
Mueller did neither.
What Mueller did was try to find something on Trump, firm the git go - he ignored ALL evidence of RUSSIAN meddling if it did not involve Trump
DOJ Order 3917-2017 states The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation of...."Any links and or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump."
That says nothing about any imaginary links between Democrats and Russia.
His "perview" ws to get Trump, not justice.
He did neither.
We laugh about him today, but bottom line, Mueller is a national
embarrassment.
We would be willing to trade hm to you guys for, say, a case of Labatts. Interested?
Nadler, OTOH, is an embarrassment to our species.
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We will happily take Mueller and Nadler and leave you with the losers Trump and McConnell. We will even throw in Nunez and Lindsay Graham
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07-26-2019, 05:09 PM
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We will happily take Mueller and Nadler and leave you with the losers Trump and McConnell. We will even throw in Nunez and Lindsay Graham
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Have they taken your belt and shoe laces yet?
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07-26-2019, 05:14 PM
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We will happily take Mueller and Nadler and leave you with the losers Trump and McConnell. We will even throw in Nunez and Lindsay Graham
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Give Mueller and Nadler a rental car, a map, and $1,000, and there is no way in Hades they could make it from Miami to LA in a week.
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07-26-2019, 05:17 PM
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Give Mueller and Nadler a rental car, a map, and $1,000, and there is no way in Hades they could make it from Miami to LA in a week.
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There's no way they would find Hertz in a week!~
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07-26-2019, 05:18 PM
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Anyone else catch the Baghdad Bob presser put on by Pelosi, Schift, Nadler and Cunnings, these people are delusional its like they never saw the Muller dumpster fire. They are quadrupling down on impeachment. They are nuts.
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To quote PeeWee Herman, "No, you are.
There were ten instances of obstruction of justice in the report. To everyone of them, Mueller said, yes, that did occur. Mueller was asked several times if he had exonerated Trump. Each time he answered "NO" EMPHATICALLY!!
A Republican congressman asked Mueller, "Would you charge Trump with crimes after he leaves office?" Mueller responded, "Yes." As if he couldn't believe what he was hearing, the Congressman repeated the question. Again,
Mueller responded in the affirmative.
It's as if you guys watched the hearing with the sound off. Actually, I doubt if you watched it at all.
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07-26-2019, 05:33 PM
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To quote PeeWee Herman, "No, you are.
There were ten instances of obstruction of justice in the report. To everyone of them, Mueller said, yes, that did occur. Mueller was asked several times if he had exonerated Trump. Each time he answered "NO" EMPHATICALLY!!
A Republican congressman asked Mueller, "Would you charge Trump with crimes after he leaves office?" Mueller responded, "Yes." As if he couldn't believe what he was hearing, the Congressman repeated the question. Again,
Mueller responded in the affirmative.
It's as if you guys watched the hearing with the sound off. Actually, I doubt if you watched it at all.
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And just like fake news CNN, you quote the wrong guy.
Nadler was the one who said Trump WOULD be charged with a crime after he left office.
In questioning, Mueller said he COULD be charged with a crime after he left office. You know, just like any other previous POTUS COULD be charged with a crime.
Shocking that you would miss the context of the quotes. Wait a minute. No it isn't. It isn't shocking in the least (or is it most?).
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07-26-2019, 05:35 PM
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To quote PeeWee Herman, "No, you are.
There were ten instances of obstruction of justice in the report. To everyone of them, Mueller said, yes, that did occur. Mueller was asked several times if he had exonerated Trump. Each time he answered "NO" EMPHATICALLY!!
A Republican congressman asked Mueller, "Would you charge Trump with crimes after he leaves office?" Mueller responded, "Yes." As if he couldn't believe what he was hearing, the Congressman repeated the question. Again,
Mueller responded in the affirmative.
It's as if you guys watched the hearing with the sound off. Actually, I doubt if you watched it at all.
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Here are a few highlights you should have learned.
Nadler is not a Republican congressman.
There was no collusion/conspiracy with Russia by the Trump presidential campaign or with any U.S. citizen.
If you understood the presumption of innocence and Due Process you would know there is no such thing as an exoneration by a prosecutor.
If you listened to the hearing you would have learned Mueller did not follow DOJ guidelines, the Special Counsel statute, or his mandate.
If you listened you heard Mueller give sworn testimony his investigation was not hindered (obstructed) by anyone.
Also, the DOJ, the people who actually count, stated the President did not obstruct.
Last edited by Show Me the Wire; 07-26-2019 at 05:44 PM.
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07-26-2019, 06:04 PM
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Part B of the report someone wrote for him was totally out of his perview, so we should bill HIM for all cost associated with it.
You can sum the whole Mueller Report as some people wrote some things.
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07-26-2019, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Part B of the report someone wrote for him was totally out of his perview, so we should bill HIM for all cost associated with it.
You can sum the whole Mueller Report as some people wrote some things.
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Exactly Tom.
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07-26-2019, 06:21 PM
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To quote PeeWee Herman, "No, you are.
There were ten instances of obstruction of justice in the report. To everyone of them, Mueller said, yes, that did occur. Mueller was asked several times if he had exonerated Trump. Each time he answered "NO" EMPHATICALLY!!
A Republican congressman asked Mueller, "Would you charge Trump with crimes after he leaves office?" Mueller responded, "Yes." As if he couldn't believe what he was hearing, the Congressman repeated the question. Again,
Mueller responded in the affirmative.
It's as if you guys watched the hearing with the sound off. Actually, I doubt if you watched it at all.
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You quote me on a completely different interview and then totally blow everything up with inaccurate statements made by inaccurate people. One thing I know for sure is Mueller learned more about his report during this hearing than you did and that says a lot.
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07-26-2019, 06:22 PM
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when he said he did not know who FusionGPS was or Steele, that told us all we needed to know.
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07-26-2019, 07:38 PM
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How you could investigate for 2 years and not know that really puts either your integrity or your brain in question.
It seems clear to me the whole charade was designed to last past the mid term elections.
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