[quote=elysiantraveller;2490898]
Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless
 In the "greatest economy ever" the GOP lost 45 seats in the house and possibly 46 after NC-09. To me that is a blasting. I even predicted that exact number in the house. So apparently our definitions of Red Wave are different. Didn't you say a blue wave was going to occur?
 In one paragraph you say deficit spending has nothing to do with the Trump economy and in the next talk about tax cuts... do you know how budgets work?
 If you don't buy insurance you pay a tax. If you don't buy American you pay a tax. Roberts literally cited tariffs as an example in his defense of Obamacare. You didn't say anything here that explains how they are different.
Under Obama you had to buy insurance to help out other Americans. Under Trump you have to buy American to help out other Americans.
Its the exact same logic and mechanism of taxes to redistribute.
|
1--the GOP lost the House in 2018 because 40 incumbents did not seek re-election. Many GOP candidates in 2018 were establishment types who did not fully embrace Trump and his agenda. All three GOP candidates in my general area actually ran against Trump. All three lost these seats that were mostly GOP these past 30 years.
I never said a blue wave was going to occur. Never. hcap even admonished Tom accusing him of not admitting something while actually mentioning me as someone who owned up to what was posted. Now you guys better get your debate points in order; all you are failing miserably.
2-- Yes, deficit spending is not the reason for the roaring, exploding Trump economy. Obama, and before him the idiot Bush the Younger, felt they needed to prop up the economy with over the top stimulous and added gov't spending. This policy showed it doesn't work. Yet that's the side you keep promoting, so to speak.
Trump got US corporations to return to the USA -- something you said would never happen, remember? Yes we all remember. Trump got foreign companies to locate here, remember? Yes, we all remember you also said it would never happen.
Taxes belong to the American taxpayer.
When Trump muscled the idiot GOP house leadership to pass the Trump Tax Cut and Reform bill -- against your type of Republicans such as Paul Ryan and the rest of the losers in the GOP -- that cut began this boom ... along with cutting onerous Obama regulations that had a choke hold on corporate America. All Trump with no help from the GOP establishment.
Tax cuts are not the reason for this onerous deficit. Spending is. Blame the House for these budget's and blame Trump for signing them.
Ten trillion dollars in increased equity in the stock market, 50 year lows in unemployment, a GDP growing at 3+ rate. And more, thanks to Trump.
Oh yeah, during Obama's tenure the US lost over 200,000 manufacturing jobs. Got that. 200,000. In <3 years with Trump the USA has added over 500,000 jobs. Got that. Plus over 6 per cent wage gain.
You also said a few times that Trump won't win states like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania. The current unemployment rate in these now solid Trump states are 2.8%, 4.2%, 4.1, and 3.8%, respectively. Mostly blue collar manufacturing jobs that Clinton, Bush and Obama destroyed and ignored.
Oh yeah, there's also 1.6 million jobs out there waiting to be filled. You should apply for one of them. From your posts, it seems you can't earn a good living with doing what you claim you do. The market is so tight, even you could get a job.
I first started businesses over 30 years ago; currently own a part of 3 thriving ones. I wrote the business plans and projections and the budgets of all of them. I currently manage money for 10 members of my family and 4-5 lifelong friends. Every single account is now worth over $1 million and a few over $5 million. All work regular jobs in construction, teach, a few now retired and the like. No mortgage brokers in the entire lot.
So, child, I do know of which I speak. So in reality, it is you who have demonstrated to us for over 3 years that you have no clue. Once again.
3--Obama and the Democrats that passed the ACA mandated --forced-- Americans to purchased a product from a private enterprise. That is illegal and against the US Constitution. Trump ended this when he ended the individual and corporate mandate that was the heart and soul of the ACA.
What Roberts said per ObamaCare was idiotic, incoherent, political and simply, wrong. His explanation was twisted and illogical and laughable. Roberts said the ACA was a tax ... yet, Obama's lawyers in front of Roberts and the Court pleaded on behalf of ObamaCare by saying that it wasn't a tax.
Class dismissed.
seats.
