The Official Trump Collapsing Thread Vol. II

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

You're so quick. I fixed it almost immediately after I posted it at first...but you were already replying...damn...LIGHTNING!

Don't count your chickens(hits) just yet

Trump Administration Losing 94 Percent of Lawsuits Over Illegal Policy Changes
https://truthout.org/articles/trump-...olicy-changes/

The Trump administration is losing court battles at an unprecedented rate, with many losses coming because officials failed to follow basic rules in changing policy.

Federal judges have ruled against the administration at least 63 times since Trump took office, The Washington Post reported. Two-thirds of those cases involved complaints that the administration violated the Administrative Procedure Act, a 1946 law that set procedural requirements that federal agencies must follow when unilaterally changing policies or regulations.


Whoop-di-do!!!
Go Chump

[PaceAdvantage]

This is going to become your own personal meme...every time something you pinned your hopes on regarding Trump falls flat on its face, I want you to play this video:

YouTube

All your dreams....dashed

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

He’s taking a page from the Dems..........our guy, all the time.....no matter how slimy.

Politicking like Dems to own the Dems...

Thanks for making my point:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

What's unfortunate though are the "Republicans" who used to "care" about this stuff now endorse the garbage coming from the White House simply because... well I don't really know...

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

What has happened is people on the right have totally chucked any principles they once had for the all important W. It's not really even the W though as most of these people deep down don't believe a lot of Trump's bullshit... it's just the D's taking the L that they care about. Take JR's, Tom's, and other's comments. It's not that Trump is good... it's just that Hillary was bad... that's visionless politics.

You've literally degraded yourself to that one annoying guy at a sporting event. Well done.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Tom

Doubling down on ignorance, huh?
Obviously you are talking out your arse again.
I was not a hug supported of Bush on Many occasions.
I called for his arrest at one point during the Iraq war. I called for Rumsfeld to be fired long before our troops entered Baghdad. I was 100% opposed to Bush not pardoning the two border agents.

I was opposed to Bush an a lot of things, and when I supported Trump, I SPECIFICALLY said I hoped the GOP would be destroyed.

Your problem is you can't see more than one idea at time. Limited focus.
Your obvious hatred of Trump blinds to facts.
You should see someone about that.

MAybe you could sue your high school.

More straw grasping.

One moment you minimize GOP losses in the Midterms and then the next you hail the GOP's destruction.

Are both sides of your mouth sore?

You're right though you weren't a fan of Bush but have hitched your wagon to this idiot because #reasons. That sure is sheep behavior.

Still waiting for an explanation why deficit spending to get from 10% to 4.7% unemployment was the devil but that sweet spot to get from 4.7 to 3.7% is worth trillion dollar deficits.

Or an explanation why requiring people buy insurance to help other Americans is the devil but requiring them to buy American products isn't.

Or how subsidies for green jobs is the bad but subsidies for other failing business like farmers, steel, and coal aren't.

Perhaps you've just been a blue dog Democrat all along? You sure as hell sound like one since Trump's taken office.

[Tom]

Oh Ely, if only Google could find you a clue.
Obviously, you are not having much luck on your own.
But you are amusing.....grasping at straws - that was rich!

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

This is going to become your own personal meme...every time something you pinned your hopes on regarding Trump falls flat on its face, I want you to play this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDzzllrb7uM

All your dreams....dashed

You are ignoring Trump's and lapdog's bogus claim about "we have the best economy EVA!"

A reminder.....
From Forbes.

Trump's Job Gains Are Just A Continuation From Obama's Presidency
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjo.../#6edf93b71af3






Whoop-di-do!!!
Go Chump

[hcap]

Drudge is not letting you forget it

"FEDERAL SPENDING SMASHES RECORDS
BUDGET DEFICIT WIDENS 23%"

[reckless]

[quote=elysiantraveller;2490003]More straw grasping.

One moment you minimize GOP losses in the Midterms and then the next you hail the GOP's destruction.

The GOP did gain two seats in the Senate, and had 2-3 more stolen from them after Election Day on 'recounts'. The GOP House also had 40 incumbents not seek re-election and many replacements did not embrace or support the Trump agenda. Still, the Democrats did not come close to the Blue Wave you predicted would happen. Anyhoot, this will be reversed in 2020.

You're right though you weren't a fan of Bush but have hitched your wagon to this idiot because #reasons. That sure is sheep behavior.

You call Trump an idiot yet he's accomplished more than any GOP president since Reagan. His record is historic and amazing to say the least.

This means nothing to the haters and the losers, but so what, that's proof why they are losers and haters.

What GOP candidate of 17 that ran -- many accomplished in their own careers, would have defeated Hillary if Trump did not run? Should be an easy question for you to answer. So why don't you try?

Still waiting for an explanation why deficit spending to get from 10% to 4.7% unemployment was the devil but that sweet spot to get from 4.7 to 3.7% is worth trillion dollar deficits.

Deficit spending has nothing to do with the great Trump economy.

The unemployment low records and jobs explosive thanks to Trump's policies, his pen and his muscling the GOP house to pass Tax Reform Tax Cuts has created the greatest economic boom in decades. This explosive is driven by the manufacturing boom and those jobs are mostly blue-collar private sector jobs. Obama hired government workers and turned his back on union, blue collar workers -- who now tended to vote mostly conservative.

The deficit spending and the budget exploding is not the driver in this booming and expanding Trump economy.

Or an explanation why requiring people buy insurance to help other Americans is the devil but requiring them to buy American products isn't.

Or how subsidies for green jobs is the bad but subsidies for other failing business like farmers, steel, and coal aren't.

My god, you really are clueless. It is against the US Constitution to force a private citizen to purchase a product from a private company.

That's exactly what Obama did when he and the Democrats passed Obama Care. If you say he/they didn't do such a thing, then why was it budgeted in the ACA to hire 75,000 more IRS agents? Funny how you never criticised Obama for that unlibertarian but totalitarian move. Well, not so funny.

Trump has never forced or do force Americans by law to 'Buy American, hire American'.

Big difference; not to us patriots and Trump supports, who know better and know the difference. It is a very big issue to the clueless, the haters and dunces, for sure.

[Tom]

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[fast4522]

[quote=reckless;2490567]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

More straw grasping.



The GOP did gain two seats in the Senate, and had 2-3 more stolen from them after Election Day on 'recounts'. The GOP House also had 40 incumbents not seek re-election and many replacements did not embrace or support the Trump agenda. Still, the Democrats did not come close to the Blue Wave you predicted would happen. Anyhoot, this will be reversed in 2020.



You call Trump an idiot yet he's accomplished more than any GOP president since Reagan. His record is historic and amazing to say the least.

This means nothing to the haters and the losers, but so what, that's proof why they are losers and haters.

What GOP candidate of 17 that ran -- many accomplished in their own careers, would have defeated Hillary if Trump did not run? Should be an easy question for you to answer. So why don't you try?



Deficit spending has nothing to do with the great Trump economy.

The unemployment low records and jobs explosive thanks to Trump's policies, his pen and his muscling the GOP house to pass Tax Reform Tax Cuts has created the greatest economic boom in decades. This explosive is driven by the manufacturing boom and those jobs are mostly blue-collar private sector jobs. Obama hired government workers and turned his back on union, blue collar workers -- who now tended to vote mostly conservative.

The deficit spending and the budget exploding is not the driver in this booming and expanding Trump economy.





My god, you really are clueless. It is against the US Constitution to force a private citizen to purchase a product from a private company.

That's exactly what Obama did when he and the Democrats passed Obama Care. If you say he/they didn't do such a thing, then why was it budgeted in the ACA to hire 75,000 more IRS agents? Funny how you never criticised Obama for that unlibertarian but totalitarian move. Well, not so funny.

Trump has never forced or do force Americans by law to 'Buy American, hire American'.

Big difference; not to us patriots and Trump supports, who know better and know the difference. It is a very big issue to the clueless, the haters and dunces, for sure.

The demons haunting his family he identifies as having the Presidents finger prints on them. Such a economy is not good for his mom and dad who depend on finding temporary to fill assignments. Add to a slowing real estate market that his services have already been hurt as much as 30 % by a changing market of products by the internet. There is no time soon that he will stop whining, and to think the he called Mike a hysterical something girl.

[incoming]

[QUOTE=reckless;2490567][quote=elysiantraveller;2490003]More straw grasping.



The GOP did gain two seats in the Senate, and had 2-3 more stolen from them after Election Day on 'recounts'. The GOP House also had 40 incumbents not seek re-election and many replacements did not embrace or support the Trump agenda. Still, the Democrats did not come close to the Blue Wave you predicted would happen. Anyhoot, this will be reversed in 2020.

These are some facts many democrat bean counter failed to acknowledge.

Another fact, Republicans can only chair committees for the length of one term. This is also a reason for many Republican incumbents deciding not to seek reelection. On the other hand, Democrat chairmen are decided by seniority.

ANOTHER GOOD REASON ALL POLITICIANS SHOULD HAVE TERM LIMITS NOT JUST PRESIDENTS!

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

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Exactly. Demonstrates Chump only continued the strong upward trend Obama left the chump. Remember the article I used from Forbes was titled.....
"Trump's Job Gains Are Just A Continuation From Obama's Presidency"

Whereas Obama inherited a disaster from Georgie and completely turned it around.

Whoop-di-do!!!
Go Chump

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by hcap

Whereas Obama inherited a disaster from Georgie and completely turned it around.

Then by this reasoning I gather you think Trump is doing a great job. After all, presidents are the end all and be all in a 20T economy.

The truth is going to hurt here Harry, but the village idiot (closely resembles you except you're far older and not as wise) would have gotten a bounce off the 2009 lows. All of us know that, including you, but you still peddle this garbage. The problem for Obama is that his bounce was decidedly mellow rather than robust. There are all kinds of charts that support our respective opinions, but the truth is that Obama did NOT do a great job with our economy despite the fact that it grew healthier during his regime. Both can, and in this case, are true.

[elysiantraveller]

[quote=reckless;2490567]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

More straw grasping.



The GOP did gain two seats in the Senate, and had 2-3 more stolen from them after Election Day on 'recounts'. The GOP House also had 40 incumbents not seek re-election and many replacements did not embrace or support the Trump agenda. Still, the Democrats did not come close to the Blue Wave you predicted would happen. Anyhoot, this will be reversed in 2020.

Deficit spending has nothing to do with the great Trump economy.

The unemployment low records and jobs explosive thanks to Trump's policies, his pen and his muscling the GOP house to pass Tax Reform Tax Cuts has created the greatest economic boom in decades. This explosive is driven by the manufacturing boom and those jobs are mostly blue-collar private sector jobs. Obama hired government workers and turned his back on union, blue collar workers -- who now tended to vote mostly conservative.

The deficit spending and the budget exploding is not the driver in this booming and expanding Trump economy.

My god, you really are clueless. It is against the US Constitution to force a private citizen to purchase a product from a private company.

In the "greatest economy ever" the GOP lost 45 seats in the house and possibly 46 after NC-09. To me that is a blasting. I even predicted that exact number in the house. So apparently our definitions of Red Wave are different. Didn't you say a blue wave was going to occur?

In one paragraph you say deficit spending has nothing to do with the Trump economy and in the next talk about tax cuts... do you know how budgets work?

If you don't buy insurance you pay a tax. If you don't buy American you pay a tax. Roberts literally cited tariffs as an example in his defense of Obamacare. You didn't say anything here that explains how they are different.

Under Obama you had to buy insurance to help out other Americans. Under Trump you have to buy American to help out other Americans.

Its the exact same logic and mechanism of taxes to redistribute.

[fast4522]

That is your view, when it is less expensive to just pay cash at a doctor that should be everyone's option. The ACA forced people to pay 3 times what they would have for cash. Most do not believe in M4A, Under Obama everything was shit including foreign policy. Everything you post falls apart when a globalist view is not supported and you know it. No one wants to swap their hand for yours as the old saying goes. Shoveling shit against a growing tide is your future here.