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Old 04-06-2013, 07:13 PM   #31
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Yes, it was a good race, too bad the odds were so low. Had the top 3, like you, in my 4 contenders but couldn't bet Verrazano to win due to odds.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:22 PM   #32
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The only thing that sucks about Normandy Invasions effort is he will now be the official wise guy horse.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:28 PM   #33
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Verrazano looked like he exploded at first asking, and I thought the race might be over, but then the finish was solid.

Looked like Normandy Invasion ran very well today. I had written him off, but have to consider him now.

We've got a handful of really good 3yos setting up for this triple crown.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:31 PM   #34
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Some thoughts

None of the horses which ran in the Santa Anita Derby will finish in the top five in the Kentucky Derby.
Normandy Invasion is one of those horses whose next race will always be the one.
Verrazano would have been better served in the Wood if Valazquez had allowed him to go to the lead.
Right now Orb and Verrazano are the only horses I would consider to win the Derby.
I will be giving Java's War a long look underneath in the exotics.
Even though Aqueduct is a much slower track than Santa Anita, Verrazano ran a much faster final three eighths than Goldencents-36.53 to 38.29.
The Wood will be a major factor in moving Verrazano forward, particularly that final three eighths.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:32 PM   #35
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We've got a handful of really good 3yos setting up for this triple crown.
I don't come to that conclusion; I would say we have a handful of CLOSELY MATCHED 3yos setting up for this triple crown.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:41 PM   #36
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Verrazano's closing numbers have been improving with every race, so it's not a surprise to see him put in a respectable final three furlongs...btw, each of the first four quarters of the Wood was run faster than the previous quarter (except the first of course... )...you don't see that every day...

This should be one tough horse in the Derby...
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:49 PM   #37
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None of the horses which ran in the Santa Anita Derby will finish in the top five in the Kentucky Derby.
Normandy Invasion is one of those horses whose next race will always be the one.
Verrazano would have been better served in the Wood if Valazquez had allowed him to go to the lead.
Right now Orb and Verrazano are the only horses I would consider to win the Derby.
I will be giving Java's War a long look underneath in the exotics.
Even though Aqueduct is a much slower track than Santa Anita, Verrazano ran a much faster final three eighths than Goldencents-36.53 to 38.29.
The Wood will be a major factor in moving Verrazano forward, particularly that final three eighths.


Better rethink a lot of this because I agree with a lot of it. Especially sentence one.
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Verrazano's closing numbers have been improving with every race, so it's not a surprise to see him put in a respectable final three furlongs...btw, each of the first four quarters of the Wood was run faster than the previous quarter (except the first of course... )...you don't see that every day...

This should be one tough horse in the Derby...
I did not realize that. Thanks for pointing it out. Quick quiz. Which famous "Big Red" triple crown winner did the same thing in his Kentucky Derby?
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Better rethink a lot of this because I agree with a lot of it. Especially sentence one.
We'll be geniuses together. At least until May 3.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:03 PM   #40
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Florida/New York prepped winner

I fully agree that the Calif. horses look way over matched this year.

There are at least a half dozen horses who look stronger that spent their winters in Florida, or New York.

Neither Baffert, nor O'Neill, will have a runner going off at single digit odds.

The one horse who may offer value on the day is Itsmyluckyday.
There will be a lot more hype on numerous others.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:23 PM   #41
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Big V looks legit. Was tested and responded the way you hoped he would (if you're a Big V backer).
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:24 PM   #42
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Yes, he had a taste of pressure out of the turn. Was glad to see him go on.
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The only thing that sucks about Normandy Invasions effort is he will now be the official wise guy horse.
He is going to be my Derby horse and todays race was nice prep.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:03 PM   #44
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The only thing that sucks about Normandy Invasions effort is he will now be the official wise guy horse.
Yes, he is going to be the wiseguy horse. I will probably use him as an anchor at the bottom of the long exotics because that is where they usually end up best.
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What about the pace scenario being altered by the handler of the 10 horse???
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