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Old 12-10-2011, 10:42 PM   #16
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the natural? ryan braun

guys like pujols, tebow etc.. are easy to see they use a lot of hgh

guys like derek rose, dwight howard etc.. are easy to see they are using peds... lebron shows lots of signs, wade has the look of a moderate image (unfair but i'm using stars among the more obvious rather than name off lesser knowns)


but Braun is a surprise because while he isn't skiny, he isn't swolen up beyond the frame a guy who just works fairly hard could achieve and he is such a fluid "natural" ballplayer...

90% will experiment with steroids, or hgh , or peds at some point from HS-College-Pros, but you like to think most grow out of that or relegate it to cycles during training.

Braun is surprising.
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Old 12-10-2011, 10:55 PM   #17
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guys like pujols, tebow etc.. are easy to see they use a lot of hgh

guys like derek rose, dwight howard etc.. are easy to see they are using peds... lebron shows lots of signs, wade has the look of a moderate image (unfair but i'm using stars among the more obvious rather than name off lesser knowns)


but Braun is a surprise because while he isn't skiny, he isn't swolen up beyond the frame a guy who just works fairly hard could achieve and he is such a fluid "natural" ballplayer...

90% will experiment with steroids, or hgh , or peds at some point from HS-College-Pros, but you like to think most grow out of that or relegate it to cycles during training.

Braun is surprising.
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Old 12-11-2011, 10:33 AM   #18
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I have been a Brewers season ticket holder the past two years and was planning on renewing. Now, with a 50 game suspension for the NL MVP in the offing, I may very well reconsider.
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Old 12-11-2011, 11:43 AM   #19
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Anyone who thinks Tim Tebow cheats at anything is fooling themselves...I would like to believe there are some "honest" players...
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Old 12-11-2011, 06:30 PM   #20
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guys like pujols, tebow etc.. are easy to see they use a lot of hgh

guys like derek rose, dwight howard etc.. are easy to see they are using peds... lebron shows lots of signs, wade has the look of a moderate image (unfair but i'm using stars among the more obvious rather than name off lesser knowns)


but Braun is a surprise because while he isn't skiny, he isn't swolen up beyond the frame a guy who just works fairly hard could achieve and he is such a fluid "natural" ballplayer...

90% will experiment with steroids, or hgh , or peds at some point from HS-College-Pros, but you like to think most grow out of that or relegate it to cycles during training.

Braun is surprising.
Full of speculation vs evidence of proof here. To each his own.....
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Old 12-11-2011, 11:11 PM   #21
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guys like pujols, tebow etc.. are easy to see they use a lot of hgh

guys like derek rose, dwight howard etc.. are easy to see they are using peds... lebron shows lots of signs, wade has the look of a moderate image (unfair but i'm using stars among the more obvious rather than name off lesser knowns)


but Braun is a surprise because while he isn't skiny, he isn't swolen up beyond the frame a guy who just works fairly hard could achieve and he is such a fluid "natural" ballplayer...

90% will experiment with steroids, or hgh , or peds at some point from HS-College-Pros, but you like to think most grow out of that or relegate it to cycles during training.

Braun is surprising.
Derek Rose? What would make you think he's juicing? He's a point guard. Howard is one thing; he needs power.
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:35 PM   #22
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Classic Braun wins appeal(BUD) former owner of Brewers gets a passed.

Braun suspension gets cuts down to zero,Manny cuts down from 100 to 50.MLB is the best.

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