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Ending DACA was a Trump campaign promise.
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And he attempted that did he not?
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01-19-2019, 02:51 PM
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Yes, taken out his hands by his totally incompetent and incorrect SCOTUS.
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FTFY
Maybe its the Special K with the crappy freeze dried bananas?
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01-19-2019, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
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Trump had indicated for weeks that he would not entertain an extension of DACA, which began in 2012 under President Obama and has offered renewable work permits to immigrants, known as “Dreamers,” who entered the country illegally as children. Trump had said he was hoping the Supreme Court would hear an appeal to a lower court’s injunction on his attempt to end DACA and, if the high court ruled in his favor, that ending the program would give him more leverage in talks with Democrats over the future of the Dreamers.
But the Supreme Court signaled Friday that it might not take the case. That would mean that Trump would remain unable to end DACA, which covers about 700,000 immigrants, and some Dreamer groups have called on Democrats not to cut a deal for the wall.
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Fake News! MAGA FOR EVERYBODY!
But seriously hadn't seen that...
Thanks for sharing...
Durbin is also killing the idea of trading his DACA bill for a wall... Shutdown has to end first.
“First, President Trump and Senate Majority Leader McConnell must open the government today. Second, I cannot support the proposed offer as reported and do not believe it can pass the Senate.”
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01-19-2019, 02:54 PM
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Not so, but it sounds so cute.
I love it when you talk troll.
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01-19-2019, 02:55 PM
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The Dems have assumed what Trump will offer today, and say they will reject it.
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Democrats signaled they’ll reject an offer expected from President Donald Trump to extend protections for so-called Dreamers for three years in exchange for $5.7 billion in funds for border security as a way to reopen the federal government.
As well as protections for Dreamers, young people brought to the U.S. illegally as children, Trump is also expected to propose extending the visas for Temporary Protection Status holders, though it’s unclear for how long, said a person familiar with Trump’s plan.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...remain-stalled
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01-19-2019, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
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Well after a month of shutdown at least Trump has reached a deal with Kushner...
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01-19-2019, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
The Dems have assumed what Trump will offer today, and say they will reject it.
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The optics won't support the dems here. I suspect that's the whole point of Trump's gambit.
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01-19-2019, 03:06 PM
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Sounds like the optics will be TRUMP is trying to negotiate and the dems are not.
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01-19-2019, 03:11 PM
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The optics won't support the dems here. I suspect that's the whole point of Trump's gambit.
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The optics support whatever partisans on either side of the aisle want them to support. The Dems want the government opened before they will negotiate. Trump wants negotiations before opening the government. Each will say the other is unreasonable and refusing to negotiate.
I'm guessing the whole thing will end up in court.
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01-19-2019, 03:17 PM
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The optics won't support the dems here. I suspect that's the whole point of Trump's gambit.
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Exactly...
Would probably have worked a lot better if we weren't hitting day 30 before trying it out... if it wasn't widely reported Republicans have been asking him to do this for weeks...
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01-19-2019, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
The optics support whatever partisans on either side of the aisle want them to support. The Dems want the government opened before they will negotiate. Trump wants negotiations before opening the government. Each will say the other is unreasonable and refusing to negotiate.
I'm guessing the whole thing will end up in court.
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Its pretty baked in at this point so I can't see this moving the needle at all...
The shutdown has been hurting Trump more than anyone else and there's blood in the water... Democrats know that.
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01-19-2019, 03:27 PM
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The optics won't support the dems here. I suspect that's the whole point of Trump's gambit.
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Optics?
You mean there are a significant number of fence sitters on this issue?
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01-19-2019, 03:49 PM
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Optics 101
Unannounced swearing in ceremony of LEGAL immigrants in the WH. In the Oval for the first time ever.
Good speech about how REAL Americans are one people under one flag.
An American family.
A+
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Optics?
You mean there are a significant number of fence sitters on this issue?
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I'm talking about 2020.
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01-19-2019, 03:52 PM
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I'm talking about 2020.
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Most voters can’t count that high.
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