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Old 10-31-2018, 04:49 PM   #1
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Espn front page article on Florida dog racing vote

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/sto...eyhound-racing
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Old 10-31-2018, 05:01 PM   #2
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We've adopted three over the years. Gentle, sweet, and odorless. Love them.

Just don't let them out of a fenced area. They be gone.

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Old 10-31-2018, 05:16 PM   #3
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We've adopted three over the years. Gentle, sweet, and odorless. Love them.

Just don't let them out of a fenced area. They be gone.

Bless you John!...I loved the greyhounds before the horses, but economics took over and you know the rest.
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Old 10-31-2018, 05:24 PM   #4
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Bless you John!...I loved the greyhounds before the horses, but economics took over and you know the rest.
Thanks, Randall. They have a tough life. For several years I transported them between the tracks, adoption groups, and adopters.
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Old 10-31-2018, 05:42 PM   #5
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I've tried in vain to find some polling numbers on this, but haven't had any luck. Either the pollsters don't think this prop is important enough to poll on, or it's such a slam dunk that it's not worth the effort.

My money is on the latter. Proponents have outraised opposition by a ridiculous margin ($2.5 million for supporters, only $80k for opposition). So I imagine the Florida airwaves are being bombared with "Yes on 13" ads. Factor in the general consensus among the population that "racing is cruel", and it's hard to see a scenario where this doesn't pass.

I wish the amendment had some sort provision for aftercare, but I still think that in the long-term, passage is the best thing. It's not ideal, but I'd rather see dogs put down now in a humane way, than to watch them keep being bred and dying for years and years to come.

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Old 10-31-2018, 07:04 PM   #6
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We've adopted three over the years. Gentle, sweet, and odorless. Love them.

Just don't let them out of a fenced area. They be gone.
Damn,,,,,,,, I thought I found a home.... .....missed by one!
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I've tried in vain to find some polling numbers on this, but haven't had any luck. Either the pollsters don't think this prop is important enough to poll on, or it's such a slam dunk that it's not worth the effort.

My money is on the latter. Proponents have outraised opposition by a ridiculous margin ($2.5 million for supporters, only $80k for opposition). So I imagine the Florida airwaves are being bombared with "Yes on 13" ads. Factor in the general consensus among the population that "racing is cruel", and it's hard to see a scenario where this doesn't pass.

I wish the amendment had some sort provision for aftercare, but I still think that in the long-term, passage is the best thing. It's not ideal, but I'd rather see dogs put down now in a humane way, than to watch them keep being bred and dying for years and years to come.
I think it will pass easily. We Floridians are a consistent people when it comes to animal welfare and the environment.

Back in 2002, more than 60% of us voted to give sows and piglets the constitutional right to pens that are big enough to allow all of them to stand and turn around and lie down to nurse.

Every environmental initiative has passed since the early 1990s and the Forever Florida fund.

Off the track greyhounds are lovely, the best dogs. I've lived with three over the years.

People get us so wrong, we're not what people think we are.

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Old 10-31-2018, 07:14 PM   #8
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Last poll I saw saw was 46-36 for a Yes with the remainder undecided.
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Old 11-01-2018, 09:59 AM   #9
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Last poll I saw saw was 46-36 for a Yes with the remainder undecided.
It needs 60% to pass, so it will fail according to those numbers.
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:27 AM   #10
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I voted NO; there's much more in this bill than saving greyhounds, and the thoroughbred industry in this state is against it.

https://www.ocala.com/opinion/201810...ing-in-florida
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Old 11-01-2018, 01:23 PM   #11
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A vote on dog racing left myself and several members of my families without a job in 2010 when Wonderland Greyhound Park closed. My mother was the receptionist at Wonderland Greyhound Park since 1980 and worked there over 30 years. My brother was the brakeman that stopped the rabbit / lure and I was the night watchman. I knew everybody down there and aside from working there I grew up only steps away on Kimball Ave.
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Old 11-06-2018, 09:39 PM   #12
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...elections.html

Proposition 13 passes. 68.5% voting yes, 31.5% voting no.

RIP greyhound racing.
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:12 PM   #13
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Another interesting article:

https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-n...218244230.html

The time for greyhound racing in the US has come and gone, that is why the stands at many tracks are empty. Best to just get rid of it.

Funny though that the greyhound track owners get to decouple and keep their profitable card rooms, but horse racing cannot decouple. Only logical move is that the horses will be next.
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:47 PM   #14
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Half the dog tracks in country to be closed in next 2 years.

https://floridadailypost.com/florida...d-racing-2021/

I wonder if a NFL player breaking a bone constitutes abuse?
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Just a matter of time before we see this happen to tbred tracks in some states, especially the ones....well you can figure that out yourself.
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