At least the Russian are sneaky (Saudi Assassination)

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

When you got nothing just keep repeating yourself...



Full stop.

That's where the discussion on the subject at hand ends and you begin justifying the actions of a lousy executive.

So far you have not offered anything of substance other than the U.S. should not allow it.

As a general principle 'Sovereign Nations have no business interfering with the Domestic Affairs of other Sovereign Nations.'
If private companies do not want to do business with those nations that is there business.
Governments should mind their own Domestic Affairs business not those of other nations.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

So far you have not offered anything of substance other than the U.S. should not allow it.

As a general principle 'Sovereign Nations have no business interfering with the Domestic Affairs of other Sovereign Nations.'
If private companies do not want to do business with those nations that is there business.
Governments should mind their own Domestic Affairs business not those of other nations.

do·mes·tic
/dəˈmestik/Submit
adjective
1.
relating to the running of a home or to family relations.
"domestic chores"
synonyms: family, home, household
"domestic commitments"
2.
existing or occurring inside a particular country; not foreign or international.
"the current state of US domestic affairs"
synonyms: national, home, internal
"the domestic car industry"


Why do you keep backing a losing argument? If we decide to off Snowden you think Russia will just shrug and say nothing because its a "Domestic Affair?"

[Greyfox]

The U.S. is the only nation that Domestic Affairs applies to.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Why do you keep backing a losing argument?

You have no argument at all that would be possible to lose to.

Sovereign Nations should not get involved with the Domestic Affairs of other Sovereign Nations.

I offer that as a Thesis.
You have no justifiable Anti-thesis.

[woodtoo]

3 whole weeks and nothing released, no audio, no video no official statement by the Turks of any real significance. This reminds me of another event the
Las Vegas shooting, not that they are related at all. Just a grey blur of speculation.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

3 whole weeks and nothing released, no audio, no video no official statement by the Turks of any real significance. This reminds me of another event the
Las Vegas shooting, not that they are related at all. Just a grey blur of speculation.

Turkey can't admit they have more audio or video.
That would be an admission that they had "bugged" an embassy that they weren't entitled to monitor.

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

Turkey can't admit they have more audio or video.
That would be an admission that they had "bugged" an embassy that they weren't entitled to monitor.

So instead of releasing an audio they hint at it and hope that is proof enough.

[hcap]

Looks like Chunpy et al is spinning again in a most despicable way.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

Hard-line Republicans and conservative commentators are mounting a whispering campaign against Jamal Khashoggi….privately exchanging articles from right-wing outlets that fuel suspicion of Khashoggi…and raising conspiratorial questions about his work decades ago as an embedded reporter covering Osama bin Laden.

Donald Trump Jr….Khashoggi was “tooling around Afghanistan with Osama bin Laden” in the 1980s…. Mark Levin…Khashoggi a “longtime friend” of terrorists.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

You have no argument at all that would be possible to lose to.

Sovereign Nations should not get involved with the Domestic Affairs of other Sovereign Nations.

I offer that as a Thesis.
You have no justifiable Anti-thesis.

And I laughed at your Domestic Affairs comment.

It wasn't a domestic affair it, was a extra-territorial political assassination of a guy who had been in voluntary exile for the past decade.

Your point is absurd.

What you are actually doing is shifting and jiving moving the goalposts all over the map here to simply manufacture an argument.

Go ahead and cling to the Domestic Affair point... answer the Snowden question.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by hcap

Looks like Chunpy et al is spinning again in a most despicable way.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

Hard-line Republicans and conservative commentators are mounting a whispering campaign against Jamal Khashoggi….privately exchanging articles from right-wing outlets that fuel suspicion of Khashoggi…and raising conspiratorial questions about his work decades ago as an embedded reporter covering Osama bin Laden.

Donald Trump Jr….Khashoggi was “tooling around Afghanistan with Osama bin Laden” in the 1980s…. Mark Levin…Khashoggi a “longtime friend” of terrorists.

Trump loves to tough talk our friends and handle actual bad actors with kid gloves.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

And I laughed at your Domestic Affairs comment.

It wasn't a domestic affair it, was a extra-territorial political assassination of a guy who had been in voluntary exile for the past decade.

Your point is absurd.

I don't want to argue with Tweedle Dee here.
So I'll close by saying that the Saudi Embassy in Turkey is technically
Saudi Arabian soil. Thus it was a Domestic Affair.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

It wasn't a domestic affair it, was a extra-territorial political assassination of a guy who had been in voluntary exile for the past decade.

Decade? You don't subtract too well either.
Khashoggi left Arabia in 2017.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

I don't want to argue with Tweedle Dee here.
So I'll close by saying that the Saudi Embassy in Turkey is technically
Saudi Arabian soil. Thus it was a Domestic Affair.

Still won't answer a question.

So they lure him to an embassy in order to kill him? You're making my point that you can't carry out political assassination... especially this loudly... and expect to get away with it.

You're right... you're merely being contrarian for contrarians sake as its obvious you are putting in almost as little stock into your own bullshit at this point as I am.

Feel free to point out where I've actually posted something you disagree with as far as a course of action on the matter.

Again... I'll leave this here:

Originally Posted by Greyfox

Simple? Maybe.
Of course the U.S values are against that..[/U]

Our political actions need to at least ATTEMPT to mirror our actual values... or else we lose credibility.... my original ****ing point.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

or else we lose credibility.... my original ****ing point.

America's loses credibility if it meddles in Domestic Affairs of other nations.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

America's loses credibility if it meddles in Domestic Affairs of other nations.

No it doesn't.

We do it all the time.

I take it you were against Trump's bombings in Syria too right?

Thanks for playing word games without substance.