Drag Queen Story Hour

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Berrio was ordained a priest in the Archdiocese of Chicago in 2008. The priest, a native of Colombia, came to Chicago through the Casa Jesus program, a “house of discernment” in which prospective seminarians from Latin America were invited to consider the priesthood during a year-long program sponsored by the archdiocese. The program was founded in 1987.

The Casa Jesus program was suspended in 2016. In that year, NBC 5 Chicago reported homosexual activity among Casa Jesus participants, and said that in 2015 three participants had been dismissed after visiting a gay bar.

In September 2016, Fr. Octavio Munoz was arrested on child pornography charges. Munoz was the rector of Casa Jesus from 2008 to 2015, when he was transferred to a parish in the archdiocese....................................... .............

NBC 5 Chicago reported in 2016 that Vilchez-Parra had ties to Casa Jesus, but did not say whether he had been a participant in the program.


https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...-program-69513

Hmm both priests have ties to Casa Jesus?

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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Where were you at? Unless in an area with a high gay population I would not think a drag queen could get hired serving the public. I don't think I have ever seen a drag queen working in a fast food joint serving customers.

Williston, ND of all places. Guarantee you this chick has a dick.

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Mark Rozzi (d) Pennsylvania state rep gave the U.S. Bishops good news today; "judgment day is upon us." Rozzi spoke to legislation removing the statute of limitations, which barred prosecution of these predatory homosexual clergy.

The U.S. Bishops have been an ally of the democrat party in pushing the same sex and its related sexual ideologies agenda. Good to see the democrats in Pennsylvania help expose the predatory homosexual practices their allies, read U.S. Bishops, hid to help promote the same sex agenda in secular society and the Church.

I guess the U.S. Bishops miscalculated the strength of the alliance between the democrat party and themselves.

[Tom]

So the Bishops were infringing on DNC territory?

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Originally Posted by Tom

So the Bishops were infringing on DNC territory?

Yes

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

Mark Rozzi (d) Pennsylvania state rep gave the U.S. Bishops good news today; "judgment day is upon us." Rozzi spoke to legislation removing the statute of limitations, which barred prosecution of these predatory homosexual clergy.

The U.S. Bishops have been an ally of the democrat party in pushing the same sex and its related sexual ideologies agenda. Good to see the democrats in Pennsylvania help expose the predatory homosexual practices their allies, read U.S. Bishops, hid to help promote the same sex agenda in secular society and the Church.

I guess the U.S. Bishops miscalculated the strength of the alliance between the democrat party and themselves.

I believe this action will also legally open the doors for significant monetary damages against the Catholic Church via Vatican coffers......It's always about the money.

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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

I believe this action will also legally open the doors for significant monetary damages against the Catholic Church via Vatican coffers.....

Supreme Court has already ruled that the Vatican is a foreign sovereign state and outside of U.S. judicial jurisdiction.

Regarding the U.S., it use to be all the property in a diocese belonged to the bishop. Obtain a financial judgment against the bishop and all the diocese assets were at risk.

The U.S. bishops no longer own the assets of the diocese. Each and every parish is now individually incorporated and the assets belong to that specific parish. Under this new structure only that particular parish is financially on the hook and not the assets of the entire diocese.

There will not be significant financial harm done, the harm done will be in exposing predatory homosexuality due to the pushing the same sex agenda in both the Church and secular society.

[Tom]

All churches should pay property taxes.
No exceptions.
No free rides.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

Supreme Court has already ruled that the Vatican is a foreign sovereign state and outside of U.S. judicial jurisdiction.

Regarding the U.S., it use to be all the property in a diocese belonged to the bishop. Obtain a financial judgment against the bishop and all the diocese assets were at risk.

The U.S. bishops no longer own the assets of the diocese. Each and every parish is now individually incorporated and the assets belong to that specific parish. Under this new structure only that particular parish is financially on the hook and not the assets of the entire diocese.

There will not be significant financial harm done, the harm done will be in exposing predatory homosexuality due to the pushing the same sex agenda in both the Church and secular society.

Unless you can show me evidence of what you stated, the ruling in 2010 has stripped the Vatican of it's immunity:

https://www.theguardian.com/law/beli...atican-survive

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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

Unless you can show me evidence of what you stated, the ruling in 2010 has stripped the Vatican of it's immunity:

https://www.theguardian.com/law/beli...atican-survive

The case you cited is a federal appeals court ruling and does not strip the Vatican of its immunity. The decision was based on an exception to the immunity act. The S.C. declined to hear appeal on whether the predatory homosexual clergy were direct employees of the Vatican and remanded it back to the ninth circuit (notorious for its decisions being overturned) for further consideration.

The case was dismissed in 2013. Why, because the plaintiff could not prove "scope of employment exception".

https://www.crin.org/en/library/lega...holy-see-et-al

I hope the above answers your question about immunity.

As I said, I doubt there will be any significant financial harm to the Vatican or the U.S. dioceses.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

The case you cited is a federal appeals court ruling and does not strip the Vatican of its immunity. The decision was based on an exception to the immunity act. The S.C. declined to hear appeal on whether the predatory homosexual clergy were direct employees of the Vatican and remanded it back to the ninth circuit (notorious for its decisions being overturned) for further consideration.

The case was dismissed in 2013. Why, because the plaintiff could not prove "scope of employment exception".

https://www.crin.org/en/library/lega...holy-see-et-al

I hope the above answers your question about immunity.

As I said, I doubt there will be any significant financial harm to the Vatican or the U.S. dioceses.

You might want to check your source again, as this was not a Fed Appeals Court ruling. The US Supreme Court issued a decision against the Vatican in the case of John V Doe v Holy See. The Vatican attempted to invoke the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSIA) of 1976, under which foreign states cannot be sued. The Supreme Court refused to allow this.....

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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

You might want to check your source again, as this was not a Fed Appeals Court ruling. The US Supreme Court issued a decision against the Vatican in the case of John V Doe v Holy See. The Vatican attempted to invoke the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSIA) of 1976, under which foreign states cannot be sued. The Supreme Court refused to allow this.....

Doe v. Holy See, set al. original opinion, U.S. District Court Judge Michael Mosman has ruled that the Holy See cannot be held liable because there was no relationship of employment in the case. Jeff Anderson, attorney for the plaintiff, said he would appeal the decision.[1] The case was finally dismissed in August 2013. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doe_v._Holy_See

The Holy See moved to dismiss the claims against it, invoking its immunity under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act. When the District Court rejected that motion, the defendant took an interlocutory appeal.[5] A divided ninth circuit panel affirmed the judgment of the district court, and in June 2010, the Supreme Court of the United States denied certiorari,[6] sending the case back to the District Court for further proceedings.

Doe v Holy See, et al. was dismissed in 2013 after being remanded by the S.C. Appeals court dismisses sexual abuse lawsuit against Vatican.


Appeals court dismisses sexual abuse lawsuit against Vatican. https://www.ncronline.org/news/accou...gainst-vatican



Do you have a ruling after 2013?

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Supreme Court has already ruled that the Vatican is a foreign sovereign state and outside of U.S. judicial jurisdiction.

I take the above statement back. The Supreme Court has not ruled on the merits of whether the Vatican is a sovereign state under the foreign sovereign immunities act. I was thinking about the federal's government's position that the Vatican is a sovereign foreign government (see solicitor general of the United States brief).

It is the position of the U.S. federal government that the Vatican is a foreign sovereign state.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

I take the above statement back. The Supreme Court has not ruled on the merits of whether the Vatican is a sovereign state under the foreign sovereign immunities act. I was thinking about the federal's government's position that the Vatican is a sovereign foreign government (see solicitor general of the United States brief).

It is the position of the U.S. federal government that the Vatican is a foreign sovereign state.

I understand, no problem....What I don't understand is why the Catholic Church is silently paying off victims $4 Billion, to avoid being sued in court, and yet it mostly goes unnoticed:

"According to Jack and Diane Ruhl of the National Catholic Reporter, the Vatican has spent a sickening $3,994,797,060.10 to families in order to avoid being sued in court."

https://yournewswire.com/vatican-4bi...abuse-victims/

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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

I understand, no problem....What I don't understand is why the Catholic Church is silently paying off victims $4 Billion, to avoid being sued in court, and yet it mostly goes unnoticed:

"According to Jack and Diane Ruhl of the National Catholic Reporter, the Vatican has spent a sickening $3,994,797,060.10 to families in order to avoid being sued in court."

https://yournewswire.com/vatican-4bi...abuse-victims/

To hide the grave problem of predatory homosexual acts. The U.S. Bishops support the Democrat party platform for same sex, etc. lifestyles. Why? Most likely because the majority of bishops are homosexual. The problem of predatory homosexual activity is a very large roadblock to the same sex agenda.

I am thrilled to see their allies remove the statute of limitations so the depth and gravity of the problem with the same sex agenda.