Special counsel Robert Mueller

[Tom]

If the CIA is going to go after Marxists, then let them start here at home in OUR elections!

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Interesting stuff in that letter.

Curious to see if the Team Trump pushes to release it or not.

I highly doubt it...

Some Mueller team members say final report more damaging to Trump than Barr summary suggests: NY Times

[classhandicapper]

We don't do all of these things out of sheer nationalism... we do them out of fear...

The GDP of Russia is less than California. Sure, they have nukes, but they have never used them and would never use them unless attacked. It would be assured suicide for them.

We literally have nothing to fear from Russia, yet the are made out to be this terrible boogieman.

The truth is Russia has everything to fear about us.

The west keeps aggressively moving its sphere of influence closer and closer to the Russian border and over countries with which Russia has or used to have economic and/or strategic alliances. Russia wants to protect itself and do business and we are keeping them down and encroaching on them.

Putin is a bit of a scumbag and handles the press in a way I would never approve of. But I have to be really honest with you, after watching the press in the US over the last 2 years it suddenly became clear to me why politicians in less free countries round them all up, close them down, or kill them. I never understood that before.

It's one thing to battle a free and honest press that disapproves of some of your policies. It's another to battle a press that is clearly aligned with your political opposition and is hell bent on taking you down with spins and lies.

I grew up a little more over the last 2 years. The real world is an ugly place and the US is hardly good looking.

[OntheRail]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Some Mueller team members say final report more damaging to Trump than Barr summary suggests: NY Times

Notice how they named on one (no surprise there)... just member of Mueller's Team. Leaves one to ask... did they really talk to anyone or is it more of the exceptional journalism that we've seen the past few years. Really I think they should rename it The Puttzer Prise.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

I grew up a little more over the last 2 years. The real world is an ugly place and the US is hardly good looking.

Too bad you still think Pizzagate is legit. Eh, the intel community has proof of the ruskies meddling in out election, bot none of Pizzagate, Qanon,. or the "deep state"

Oh wait I forgot, the intel community is the deep state!

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by OntheRail

Notice how they named on one (no surprise there)... just member of Mueller's Team. Leaves one to ask... did they really talk to anyone or is it more of the exceptional journalism that we've seen the past few years. Really I think they should rename it The Puttzer Prise.

<Shrug>

Odd that after nearly two years of silence members of Team Mueller start leaking now...

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by hcap

Too bad you still think Pizzagate is legit. Eh, the intel community has proof of the ruskies meddling in out election, bot none of Pizzagate, Qanon,. or the "deep state"

Oh wait I forgot, the intel community is the deep state!

Pizzagate as I define it is real (the story as defined by the scumbags in the media that are protecting people is false).

There are pedophiles that are active in the democrat party, that make contributions to it, and that well known members of the leadership associate with freely and know about. I could name names beyond Jeffry Epstein (who was already convicted and got a sweetheart deal because he's a rich contributor and could bring down a lot of famous powerful people), but I won't.

Those that know, including the press, look the other way.

Most likely that's because their careers would be destroyed (or worse) if they came public, they've been with under-aged boy/girls themselves, or because they think their political beliefs and the money they can raise are more important than the sexual activities of a few perverts.

1. Pizzagate is real.

2. Q-Anon is a scam. I've said that from the start and it's more apparent now than ever.

3. The deep state is real. That's also obvious at this point. The intelligence community has politically motivated members that use their intelligence gathering power to influence policy and attack and destroy people through their media arm if necessary.

4. Russia is a political and economic rival, but no real threat. It's made out to be a huge threat by people that want to increase defense spending, imperialist scum like the neocons, and people that want to pretend that Hillary would have won the election if Russia didn't spend pocket money on a few Facebook ads. lmao

You don't have to accept reality, but that IS reality.

When I say I grew up, I meant I always knew the press was not balanced. However, I did not realize it was also a tool of deceit and anti American/democratic values.

[davew]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

<Shrug>

Odd that after nearly two years of silence members of Team Mueller start leaking now...

No names and no specifics about what the h@ll they are talking about. So sad when newspapers start publishing fiction and readers quote it as FACT

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by davew

No names and no specifics about what the h@ll they are talking about. So sad when newspapers start publishing fiction and readers quote it as FACT

Funny you quote a summary that's "not a summary" as FACT of what a report says without actually seeing said report...

[davew]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Funny you quote a summary that's "not a summary" as FACT of what a report says without actually seeing said report...

where? you are making up crap as well

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by davew

where? you are making up crap as well

Apologies you haven't...

That's fine I'll still take the word of the press on this one. Its been verified by multiple outlets at this point.

[davew]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Apologies you haven't...

That's fine I'll still take the word of the press on this one. Its been verified by multiple outlets at this point.

of course, now that it has been reported on CNN, MSNBC, yahoo news, msn news, .... it is as good as fact???

it is only matter of time, in less than 2 weeks it will be released (what is legal to release)

[Tom]

Oh my!
A consensus of peer-reviewed alleged news outlets!
If multiple news groups are reporting it, you can pretty much bet it is a coordinated lie.

It all comes from an unnamed source - some sleazy lawyer.

[davew]

Originally Posted by Tom

Oh my!
A consensus of peer-reviewed alleged news outlets!
If multiple news groups are reporting it, you can pretty much bet it is a coordinated lie.

It all comes from an unnamed source - some sleazy lawyer.

Maybe not even a lawyer, paralegal, investigator or secretary that worked with the special counsel.

It could have been a reporter that had a bad dream.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

Too bad you still think Pizzagate is legit. Eh, the intel community has proof of the ruskies meddling in out election, bot none of Pizzagate, Qanon,. or the "deep state"

Oh wait I forgot, the intel community is the deep state!

Too bad you still think Trump doing the frog march is legit.