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01-30-2018, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MonmouthParkJoe
Most agents I know are on the backside and in the racing office all the time. By virtue of just being there, you will hear and see a lot.
That being said, if you are really following the meet and in tune with the horse population/who was running where/condition book, add in some workouts, you can pretty accurately get an idea of who is running in 90% of the races being drawn. Add to that, they share a ton of information and have insight into what trainer is entering who.
I agree with the previous comment, while it is an edge, its not a huge one by any means. Do the work and you wont need it.
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Agents are brazen, relentless eavesdroppers. If permitted, some will stand at the counter for hours with their ears pricked.
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01-30-2018, 03:13 PM
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#47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainman
Agents are brazen, relentless eavesdroppers. If permitted, some will stand at the counter for hours with their ears pricked.
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Used to drive me nuts, literally the entire day just standing there. Couldn't agree more.
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01-30-2018, 04:04 PM
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#48
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NYRA has corruption problems.
In other news, grass is green.
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01-30-2018, 05:12 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
NYRA has corruption problems.
In other news, grass is green.
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We're talking about the incompass issue, but I think that sec was fired over it, and this was the replacement. We don't know why he was fired and banned from their properties.
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01-30-2018, 11:02 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
NYRA has corruption problems.
In other news, grass is green.
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Better have the state take over and watch them like a hawk...oh wait a minute...what? 
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01-31-2018, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Better have the state take over and watch them like a hawk...oh wait a minute...what? |
Nothing to see here folks not a problem. Move along.
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01-31-2018, 11:50 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Actually, tracks should have to be certified to a specific industry standard just like manufacturing plants or hospitals or others do - ie, the ISO standards. This is not state telling them how to run the places, just them place proving that they conform to standards in place to protect their customers. No certificate, no racing.
Looking at something as basic as timing races tells me the industry is totally out of control and run be incompetent people. Just making $$$ is NOT an acceptable criteria for competence.
The world lives by adhering to acceptable standards and verifying that they do to third parties.
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01-31-2018, 12:42 PM
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I think most will agree that the racing secretary performs one of the most important jobs in this game. Consequently, when such an important person is fired and banned from the track, then this is the sort of perplexing development that the betting customer should be fully informed about...given the game's already tarnished reputation. By refusing to comment on this issue, the NYRA is arrogantly telling the customer to just "shut up and bet"...and I don't think the customer should comply. Where are the racing "consumer protection" organizations...now that we need them?
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Last edited by thaskalos; 01-31-2018 at 12:47 PM.
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01-31-2018, 02:47 PM
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Location: NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainman
Agents are brazen, relentless eavesdroppers. If permitted, some will stand at the counter for hours with their ears pricked.
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I saw this for the past 15 years at MP from race draw time right thru the first few races every agent is in that office, it never changes.
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01-31-2018, 02:55 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
I think most will agree that the racing secretary performs one of the most important jobs in this game. Consequently, when such an important person is fired and banned from the track, then this is the sort of perplexing development that the betting customer should be fully informed about...
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You would be hard-pressed to find any company or organization that doesn't have strict "no comment" policies in place regarding personnel decisions. You could argue all day with NYRA's attorneys that as a customer you have a right to that information, but I don't think it will get you anywhere.
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01-31-2018, 02:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
I think most will agree that the racing secretary performs one of the most important jobs in this game. Consequently, when such an important person is fired and banned from the track, then this is the sort of perplexing development that the betting customer should be fully informed about...given the game's already tarnished reputation. By refusing to comment on this issue, the NYRA is arrogantly telling the customer to just "shut up and bet"...and I don't think the customer should comply. Where are the racing "consumer protection" organizations...now that we need them?
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This is basically how I view things.
Plus, NYRA is a public trust which has been granted extraordinary privileges by the government. So even ordinary taxpayers are entitled to a full explanation.
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01-31-2018, 03:03 PM
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#57
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
I think most will agree that the racing secretary performs one of the most important jobs in this game. Consequently, when such an important person is fired and banned from the track, then this is the sort of perplexing development that the betting customer should be fully informed about...given the game's already tarnished reputation. By refusing to comment on this issue, the NYRA is arrogantly telling the customer to just "shut up and bet"...and I don't think the customer should comply. Where are the racing "consumer protection" organizations...now that we need them?
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The suspension probably has nothing to do with the consumer. Most likely related to a library book he didn't return years ago.
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01-31-2018, 07:24 PM
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#58
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by onefast99
I saw this for the past 15 years at MP from race draw time right thru the first few races every agent is in that office, it never changes.
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I boot the most egregious offenders. But they are slithery and creep back to set up camp again two days later. It's like trying to throw jello.
Last edited by mountainman; 01-31-2018 at 07:27 PM.
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01-31-2018, 07:32 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nebraska
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainman
I boot the most egregious offenders. But they are slithery and creep back to set up camp again two days later. It's like trying to throw jello.
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I have to add that one to:
Peeing into the wind and trying not to inhale.
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01-31-2018, 08:42 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Prioress Ply
Nothing to see here folks not a problem. Move along.
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Oh my! 
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