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03-08-2016, 04:23 PM
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Yes, but the gamblers they rely on are the slot players.
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Obviously I get it, but handle still helps fund the purse account, whether slots or not.
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03-08-2016, 04:32 PM
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Who are some of the jocks you notice don't finish every race?
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I never notice this kind of thing unless the same rider costs me a ticket twice in a short period of time. If I cash or I'm not involved, somehow I don't notice or conclude the rider wrapped up on the horse because he felt something funny and was being cautious.
This might be a fun stat to keep track of so we could have actual data, but I'm way too busy with all the other stats I'm tracking.
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03-08-2016, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by OptionalClaimer
It's happened for years but lately jocks like Javier Castellano and Joel Rosario haven't been "finishing" their races. What I mean is once they get passed for first or second they just stop riding the horse the last 50-100 yards.
They must realize that we bet trifectas & supers with them.
Edgar Prado, Kent D are famous for just wrapping up a horse once they get passed.
Who are some of the jocks you notice don't finish every race?
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Joel Rosario is one of the most consistent finishers that I can remember, never mind a fantastic finisher in this era.
I am not in love with JC but he doesn't seem like a guy who doesn't ride a horse out.
You sure you're naming the right guys?
I am sure there are guys out there that don't ride out all the time but those 2 aren't the ones that come to mind.
Kent D? Yes, the all time leader (in my era). No one is even close to him
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03-08-2016, 06:41 PM
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Eddie D could teach everyone a lesson on how to finish.
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03-08-2016, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mandrake
Eddie D could teach everyone a lesson on how to finish.
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Please don't misinterpret me confusing Eddie D with D Cohen but where the heck is David Cohen?
I miss that vicious LEFT HAND WHIP with strong right hand pump, while HIS NECK snaps back and forth in the lane.
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03-08-2016, 06:57 PM
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He was hurt, he has I think 2 kids with Maria Remidio from Parx / Penn, not married yet, I think. She's the earner at the moment.
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03-08-2016, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mandrake
He was hurt, he has I think 2 kids with Maria Remidio from Parx / Penn, not married yet, I think. She's the earner at the moment.
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Maria had a nice win in Dec at AQU. Gave a good ride.
How hurt is he? Poor guy. I liked him.
I loved it when AQU inner was Ramon at 35%, DC at 20% and the scrubs.
I'm sure you know why I feel that way.
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03-08-2016, 07:15 PM
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Come to think of it he was on the hard knocking Jacobson horse who broke down. Don't know if he rode after that. I forget the horse's name also. He took the plunge and married Maria. He knows the scoop.
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03-08-2016, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mandrake
Eddie D could teach everyone a lesson on how to finish.
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Hand riding while the rest are rat-tat-tat-tat with a right hand whip. There'll never be another rider like Eddie Delahoussaye, IMO.
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03-08-2016, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tall One
Hand riding while the rest are rat-tat-tat-tat with a right hand whip. There'll never be another rider like Eddie Delahoussaye, IMO.
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GOD, I DETEST THAT RIGHT HAND WHIP. It's all for the camera.
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03-08-2016, 07:42 PM
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Saginaw is the horse I was thinking of. On the other hand when Eddie D and Graig Perret were at Monmouth it was exacta city. That's when Monmouth was a track with a real jockey colony.
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03-08-2016, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mandrake
Saginaw is the horse I was thinking of. On the other hand when Eddie D and Graig Perret were at Monmouth it was exacta city. That's when Monmouth was a track with a real jockey colony.
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I remember watching Julie and Joe and Herb jumping in the pool as I hung out on the 3rd floor. Bob Weems and his echo.....
They're off, they're off, they're off, they're off......
The 5th race, the 5th race, an exacta race, an exacta race, at 5 and one half, at 5 and one half, furlongs, furlongs.....
Ah the good ol days.....
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03-08-2016, 08:06 PM
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How they made Winning Colors a favorite over Risen's Star in the Belmont is why we are all in this game. If Star was ready for the derby then maybe Eddie D would have his tripe crown. AP Indy, Gato del Sol, Sonny's Halo, The Bart. Not bad. Seems to me the old days were much more jockey days, everyone had their favorites, then these days are. Today it's trainer days. Maybe I'm getting too old.
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03-08-2016, 08:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EMD4ME
I remember watching Julie and Joe and Herb jumping in the pool as I hung out on the 3rd floor. Bob Weems and his echo.....
They're off, they're off, they're off, they're off......
The 5th race, the 5th race, an exacta race, an exacta race, at 5 and one half, at 5 and one half, furlongs, furlongs.....
Ah the good ol days.....
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Going back before Antley and Krone. Jacinto Vasquez and Jorge Velasquez actually started at Monmouth. That was before my time, even.
Walter Blum
Don Brumfield
Mickey Solomone
Vince Bracciale
Graig Perret
Eddie D.
James Edwards
More my time.
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03-08-2016, 10:05 PM
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GOD, I DETEST THAT RIGHT HAND WHIP. It's all for the camera.
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Well, in this situation, I can think of a couple. One, it was his style...couple others, it was situational..
Chris McCarron. Watch Alysheba's Derby, now that's a right handed whip. Mikey Smith...his ride on Giacamo in the Derby tells me he did not do it for the camera..I lost count at 27. Rene Douglas--Editors Note's Belmont--would be another...so make it three. JMO.
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