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08-06-2018, 07:57 AM
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#256
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
We are showing the same exact amount of outrage as when Russian interfered with all the other elections prior to 2016. Can't you tell?
Or was this the first election?
Playing dumb again I see.
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We have had this discussion many times before.
The massive scale of the interference was unprecedented. We do not know the ultimate outcome yet. When Trump leaves or is booted out, we might
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08-06-2018, 09:56 AM
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#257
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Originally Posted by hcap
We have had this discussion many times before.
The massive scale of the interference was unprecedented. We do not know the ultimate outcome yet. When Trump leaves or is booted out, we might
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Unprecedented scale? like first time using facebook?
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08-06-2018, 10:09 AM
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#258
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Originally Posted by davew
Unprecedented scale? like first time using facebook?
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Did Russia Affect the 2016 Election? It’s Now Undeniable
https://www.wired.com/story/did-russ...ow-undeniable/
For some time, there has been a conflation of issues—the hacking and leaking of illegally obtained information versus propaganda and disinformation; cyber-security issues and the hacking of elections systems versus information operations and information warfare; paid advertising versus coercive messaging or psychological operations—when discussing “Russian meddling” in the 2016 US elections. The refrain has become: “There is no evidence that Russian efforts changed any votes.”
But the bombshell 37-page indictment issued Friday by Robert Mueller against Russia’s Internet Research Agency and its leadership and affiliates provides considerable detail on the Russian information warfare targeting the American public during the elections. And this information makes it increasingly difficult to say that the Kremlin's effort to impact the American mind did not succeed.
Russian interference in the 2016 election
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.fd18939491db
Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.
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08-06-2018, 10:14 AM
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#259
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Originally Posted by hcap
Did Russia Affect the 2016 Election? It’s Now Undeniable
https://www.wired.com/story/did-russ...ow-undeniable/
For some time, there has been a conflation of issues—the hacking and leaking of illegally obtained information versus propaganda and disinformation; cyber-security issues and the hacking of elections systems versus information operations and information warfare; paid advertising versus coercive messaging or psychological operations—when discussing “Russian meddling” in the 2016 US elections. The refrain has become: “There is no evidence that Russian efforts changed any votes.”
But the bombshell 37-page indictment issued Friday by Robert Mueller against Russia’s Internet Research Agency and its leadership and affiliates provides considerable detail on the Russian information warfare targeting the American public during the elections. And this information makes it increasingly difficult to say that the Kremlin's effort to impact the American mind did not succeed.
Russian interference in the 2016 election
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.fd18939491db
Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.
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so your claiming Russia brainwashed democrats into voting for Trump?
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08-06-2018, 03:26 PM
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#260
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by chadk66
still no lefty has been able to explain how the hell Russia brain washed enough liberals to vote for Trump. That's the real story here if there was Russian involvement.
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They screwed up.
The were supposed to brainWASH them, but instead, they WIPED their brains, you know, like with a CLOTH?
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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08-07-2018, 10:03 PM
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#261
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Regardless of outcome the Ohio Special does not bode well for the GOP in the fall.
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08-07-2018, 10:40 PM
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#262
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Regardless of outcome the Ohio Special does not bode well for the GOP in the fall.
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Absolutely.
That seat has been red for 30 years and not even close.
Tonight it's a toss up - and they do it again in November.
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Here it is, in a nutshell: Millions of people are
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08-07-2018, 10:54 PM
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Buckle Up
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
Absolutely.
That seat has been red for 30 years and not even close.
Tonight it's a toss up - and they do it again in November.
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I believe the internals of the voting will show massive fraud. Seeing how much time and money that was put forth by the DNC, as well as MASSIVE MSM bias, it’s really going to be a joy to see when the SHTF on this one.....
And O'Connor still couldn't get the win....
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08-07-2018, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
I believe the internals of the voting will show massive fraud. Seeing how much time and money that was put forth by the DNC, as well as MASSIVE MSM bias, it’s really going to be a joy to see when the SHTF on this one.....
And O'Connor still couldn't get the win....
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Massive fraud, my azz.
Do you seriously think for 2 seconds that getting away
with anything close to voter fraud would be possible here?
Oh....wait a minute......of course you do.
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Want to know what's wrong with this country?
Here it is, in a nutshell: Millions of people are
pinning their hopes on a man who has every
chance of returning to the WH, assuming that
he can manage to stay out of prison. Think about it.
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08-07-2018, 11:14 PM
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Buckle Up
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
Massive fraud, my azz.
Do you seriously think for 2 seconds that getting away
with anything close to voter fraud would be possible here?
Oh....wait a minute......of course you do.
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I'm just having a little fun.....for now...
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08-07-2018, 11:17 PM
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#266
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Republicans outspent the Democrats nearly 4-1 to barely hold a R+7 district.
Call it fraud if you want but that's a SHIT LOAD of fraud.
Stevie Wonder can see this is a bad sign... a handicapper should be able to as well.
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08-07-2018, 11:38 PM
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#267
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
I'm just having a little fun.....for now...
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Come back in 10 days. Heard counting the conditional and mailed ballots may delay the results 10 days. Further, if the vote margin is ultimately within half a point, an automatic recount would be triggered
.....Ohio special election — too close to call
The race is extremely close in Ohio's 12th Congressional District, where Democrat Danny O'Connor facing is off against Republican state Senator Troy Balderson. The winner will take over the term of Pat Tiberi, who resigned to work for a business group earlier this year.
With 99 percent of precincts reporting, Balderson has 50.1 percent of the vote, to O'Connor's 49.3 percent. The vote may come down to counting mailed ballots.
The NRCC claimed victory for Balderson, although no major news outlet has called the race, and
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The Gop will face many races just like this one in November. Most repug strategists are shitting bricks.
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08-07-2018, 11:41 PM
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#268
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horses4courses
Massive fraud, my azz.
Do you seriously think for 2 seconds that getting away
with anything close to voter fraud would be possible here?
Oh....wait a minute......of course you do.
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it was the Russians ....
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08-07-2018, 11:46 PM
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#269
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Buckle Up
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To H4C, Ely and Hcap…..In all sincerity, no matter who the ultimate winner is, this should have never been this close....Yes, the GOP appears to have problems in Ohio, with little to no help coming from Kasich as well...
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08-07-2018, 11:57 PM
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#270
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Kasich is a establishment RHINO, completely useless outside Ohio.
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