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05-29-2012, 11:05 PM
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In fact, one Senior Senator from Nevada probably has a LOT to do with any type of restrictions on gambling, because he represents a MAJOR PLAYER that does NOT wish to see gambling expanded beyond where it is now...of course I'm talking about Harry Reid (DEMOCRAT) and the Las Vegas casino lobby...
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05-29-2012, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by thespaah
ANd THAT is the problem. Instead of statesmen, we have politicians in office who are more concerned with their political well being than with their constituents or their nation.
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Believe me, that problem is universal.
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05-29-2012, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Look. Let me easily solve whatever political issues you may have.
DEMOCRATS were COMPLETELY IN CHARGE from January 2009 until January 2011 (I hope I have my dates correct). They controlled the White House and both houses of Congress.
Allow me to ask you...where were the relaxed gambling rules? Where was the legislation that allowed gambling to flourish nationwide?
You blaming the Tea Party or Republicans for the reason why there are many "anti-gambling" factions in the US and thus not widespread gambling options is laughable in the face of these facts.
If you're gonna blame the right, it's obvious the left is no bargain either when it comes to gambling.
How long did it take to get slots at Aqueduct? How come there are not table games in the NY Metro Area? NY State has been a BLUE STATE for how long? Let me answer that for you...NY has been blue FOREVER...
Again, the facts completely contradict your views.
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I blame all politicians... The original anti-internet bill was railroaded in on the back of an anti-terrorist bill during the Bush administration.The democrats are slow moving, gutless p*****s who talk a good game. It seems, almost every other country supports individual freedoms much more than 'the land of the free' does. Good luck getting anything progressive happening anytime soon, that includes both sports betting and my much loved online poker. And, yes I do think it is a tougher sell with a Republican House but unlikely no matter who is in control.
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05-29-2012, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by usedtolovetvg
I blame all politicians... The original anti-internet bill was railroaded in on the back of an anti-terrorist bill during the Bush administration.The democrats are slow moving, gutless p*****s who talk a good game. It seems, almost every other country supports individual freedoms much more than 'the land of the free' does. Good luck getting anything progressive happening anytime soon, that includes both sports betting and my much loved online poker. And, yes I do think it is a tougher sell with a Republican House but unlikely no matter who is in control.
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No no no no...see...you're back tracking. You singled out the "Tea Party" and then later, you didn't name them, but you blamed Republicans...
Now I point out to you Blue States that have limited gambling (NY for one) and the Democrats who controlled ALL OF DC for TWO YEARS, and nothing happened, and now you change your tune to "all politicians..."
Sorry man...that won't cut it...
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05-29-2012, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
No no no no...see...you're back tracking. You singled out the "Tea Party" and then later, you didn't name them, but you blamed Republicans...
Now I point out to you Blue States that have limited gambling (NY for one) and the Democrats who controlled ALL OF DC for TWO YEARS, and nothing happened, and now you change your tune to "all politicians..."
Sorry man...that won't cut it...
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I never said the Dems were any good. I said that the Tea Party would never pass it. I don't think they would. Show me where I supported the Dems. I'm not back tracking. I think a whole lot of other countries have a greater respect for personal freedoms. For the record, I am neither Democrat nor Republican. I belong to the Libertine Party
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05-29-2012, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
Believe me, that problem is universal.
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Sports betting is allowed throughout the civilized world.
In this country, even pornography is portrayed as more "legitimate" than gambling.
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05-29-2012, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by usedtolovetvg
I never said the Dems were any good. I said that the Tea Party would never pass it. I don't think they would. Show me where I supported the Dems. I'm not back tracking. I think a whole lot of other countries have a greater respect for personal freedoms. For the record, I am neither Democrat nor Republican. I belong to the Libertine Party
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What you did was blame one side, initially. I never said you supported anyone. I took your initial post at face value and responded in kind.
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05-30-2012, 12:26 AM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Sports betting is allowed throughout the civilized world.
In this country, even pornography is portrayed as more "legitimate" than gambling.
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I would bet on porn. But then again, i know how it ends in just about every case
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05-30-2012, 05:34 AM
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Racing Form Detective
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Look. Let me easily solve whatever political issues you may have.
DEMOCRATS were COMPLETELY IN CHARGE from January 2009 until January 2011 (I hope I have my dates correct). They controlled the White House and both houses of Congress.
Allow me to ask you...where were the relaxed gambling rules? Where was the legislation that allowed gambling to flourish nationwide?
You blaming the Tea Party or Republicans for the reason why there are many "anti-gambling" factions in the US and thus not widespread gambling options is laughable in the face of these facts.
If you're gonna blame the right, it's obvious the left is no bargain either when it comes to gambling.
How long did it take to get slots at Aqueduct? How come there are not table games in the NY Metro Area? NY State has been a BLUE STATE for how long? Let me answer that for you...NY has been blue FOREVER...
Again, the facts completely contradict your views.
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That is a misnomer. You can't do anything in the senate without 60 votes. The democrats only had 60 votes in the senate for about 6 months. The election of Scott Brown to Teddy Kennedy's old seat ended that 60 vote margin. You would be right in say the democrats did nothing during that 6 months. There are plenty of democrats who oppose any expansion of gambling including my senator, the retiring Sen Ben Nelson (D-Ne). Neither of the two people running to replace him are likely to have a substantially stance on gambling. Gambling is tied to politics if not strictly to party politics. Until gamblers make a politician's stance on gambling a priority when they vote, things are aren't likely to change.
In Nebraska we have a politically active group against gambling called "Nebraskans for the Good Life". They are in a lot ways just like the "Right to Life" organization. They endorse candidaites and lobby gambling issues. They also are able to raise a lot money when a gambling issue hits the ballots to defeat it and they are not afraid to use the courts to get their way either. I can't remember the last time they lost on something they opposed.
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05-30-2012, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Sports betting is allowed throughout the civilized world.
In this country, even pornography is portrayed as more "legitimate" than gambling.
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Agreed.
However, the problem I was referring to is that of politicians not representing constituents as they should. Their main interest becomes self-interest.
This problem is not confined to the US.
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Want to know what's wrong with this country?
Here it is, in a nutshell: Millions of people are
pinning their hopes on a man who has every
chance of returning to the WH, assuming that
he can manage to stay out of prison. Think about it.
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05-30-2012, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
Agreed.
This problem is not confined to the US.
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Agreed. but I think it's worse here. This country produces the greediest and most self-serving politicians. Gambling is such a small blip on on any politicians screen. As RG points out the anti-gambling faction is much more vocal and motivated than those who want it. They bundle it up with the other moralistic issues.
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