Art Wilson: In California it boils down to a matter of trust

[andymays]

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/sports/ci_19161504

Excerpt:

Vienna was not pleased the names of the owners who signed the petition were made public to the TOC.

"They (CHRB) screwed it all up, and the one thing they did, releasing the names of the petitioners to the opposing side, spawned a public relations effort by the (TOC) to get people to rescind their original petition decisions," he said. "They are never to release the names of the signatures.

"We went to every member (about 7,800) that we could reach and explained that we would like different representation and to see if they would join us. Now, the TOC receiving a list of the 1,100 can focus its efforts on the 1,100, which is quite an advantage in addition to causing dissension."

Vienna, a California-based trainer since 1976, said he believes an end to the battle is within sight.

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[andymays]

Secret T.O.C. Meeting | Xtranormal

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/1252...meeting?page=1

[andymays]

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/ci_19161144

There is talk that officials from the California Thoroughbred Horsemen's Association, rival organization of the Thoroughbred Owners of California, would like to stage a debate with the TOC and have it televised on either TVG, HRTV or both.

The CTHA is attempting to decertify the TOC and recently submitted more than 1,100 signatures on a petition to the California Horse Racing Board in an effort to force a decertification election.

Both sides have charged the other with misrepresenting the facts and any debate would most likely turn out to be a lively event.

[rwwupl]

Why not have a debate? I believe all necessary elements are in line except the TOC... as usual

Based on past performance I think the biggest problem would be if the TOC did accept (Probably not) would they actually show up and answer some questions.

What are the odds? 10-1 against showing up or what?