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05-13-2018, 01:26 AM
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Payoffs lower than odds after race
I posted this on twitter back in April. You can see after the 4th race was official and paid out Twin Spires still had the 1-3 exacta listed as paying $7 for the $1. Yet it only paid $4.80. Was the money so late coming in it was after the last odds update?
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05-13-2018, 03:32 AM
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what an easy game.
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1M70YDS. (1:39) STARTER OPTIONAL CLAIMING. Purse $11,000 (Includes $6,006 IOA - Illinois Registered Owner
Award. Pluses $6,006 IOA - Illinois Registered Owner Award.) FOR FOUR YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD WHICH HAVE
STARTED FOR A CLAIMING PRICE OF $6,250 OR LESS IN 2017 - 2018 OR CLAIMING PRICE $12,500. Weight, 124 lbs.
Non-winners of a race at a mile or over since March 21 Allowed 3 lbs. Claiming Price $12,500 (Claiming races for
$10,000 or less not considered in estimating allowances). (Cloudy 57)
FOURTH RACE
Hawthorne
April 21st, 2018
Value of Race: $10,670 ($6,336 reverts) Winner $6,600; second $2,200; third $1,210; fourth $660. Mutuel Pool $35,428 Daily Double Pool
$1,518 Exacta Pool $10,410 Trifecta Pool $5,714 Pick 3 Pool $1,027
Last Raced # Horse M/Eqt. A/S Wt PP St Str Fin Jockey Cl'g Pr Odds $1
05Apr18Haw
1 Cool Ambition L b 4G 124 1 1 1 1 1 1 1ƒ Emigh C A 0.50
31Mar18FG 3 Candy Carlos L b 4G 121 3 3 3 3 3 3 2 Doyle S 5.30
06Apr18Haw 2 Afleet Spring L 4G 121 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 Velazquez D 2.40
05Apr18Haw
5 Empirestrikesagain L bf 7G 121 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 Santiago V 12500 8.50
OFF AT 4:42 Start Good. Won driving. Track Fast.
Time :24, :48, 1:12, 1:37, 1:41 (:24.57, :48.83, 1:12.81, 1:37.02, 1:41.05)
1- COOL AMBITION . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.00 2.10 2.10
3- CANDY CARLOS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.60 2.10
2- AFLEET SPRING . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.10
$2 Mutuel Prices:
$1 EXACTA (1-3) PAID $4.80 20 CENT TRIFECTA (1-3-2) PAID $1.28
Bay Gelding, (), by Ice Box - Mydesireisthewire by Runaway Groom. Trainer Scott Becker. Bred by Paul Kessel (KY ).
COOL AMBITION set the pace, saved ground through the turns, dueled inside of AFLEET SPRING from the three eighths to the eighths
note the final exacta pool size and the "off time", compared to what you posted.
almost 50% more pool money added with no time difference
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Last edited by formula_2002; 05-13-2018 at 03:35 AM.
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05-13-2018, 03:59 AM
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as explained in another thread, this is probably just another case of spoof or fake betting. nothing to worry about though, this is supposed to be normal today in our betting pools.
i am starting to understand this explanation. this has something to do with fooling the conditional wagering bettors and the CRW.
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05-13-2018, 04:28 AM
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Twin Spires never updated the pool or the odds even well after the race. If you went back to that race one hour after it ran Twin Spires still had the pool listed at $7,107 with the $1 exacta paying $7.
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05-13-2018, 09:47 AM
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Just another Facist
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This shit is getting hard to keep up with.........
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05-13-2018, 12:24 PM
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I played Belmont for the first time in a year yesterday, the scratches came in early, yet twinspires had the horses as "bettable" even 3-4 hours later, and not scratched out when pulling up each individual race to wager.
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05-13-2018, 08:29 PM
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Any ideas as to why the daily double and pick 3 will pays listed on Twin Spires don't match the posted will pays on the track monitors?
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05-13-2018, 08:52 PM
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Queen B
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BreadandButter
Any ideas as to why the daily double and pick 3 will pays listed on Twin Spires don't match the posted will pays on the track monitors?
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Thats something you might want to ask Fairmount.
However it looks like the official payoffs are the Twin Spires numbers, which were higher...
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05-13-2018, 09:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TiffaniO
Thats something you might want to ask Fairmount.
However it looks like the official payoffs are the Twin Spires numbers, which were higher...
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Right. Is there a higher take on track? Some greyhound tracks of eras gone by would show different payouts based upon what state the wager was made from. I.e., Arizona prices and the screen would change colour and display those slightly different prices.
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05-14-2018, 10:02 AM
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If you suspect something, notify the TRPB.
The TRPB, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Thoroughbred Racing Associations of North America, operates as a national investigative agency in the horse racing industry. The mandate is to expose and investigate all activity prejudicial to horse racing and to maintain public confidence in the sport of Thoroughbred racing.
Sharing on Pace Advantage is fine, but the TRPB should be made aware as well.
TRPB Integrity Hotline - 410.398.3647
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Last edited by ubercapper; 05-14-2018 at 10:03 AM.
Reason: added more info.
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