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Old 09-30-2011, 06:49 PM   #91
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I need to take this last one back. Read the wrong line on the entries, so maybe what I thought initially was true.
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BRIS pps Jackie Davis listed to ride
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Old 09-30-2011, 07:20 PM   #92
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Latest forecast states showers, mainly before 10am...which is a good thing...
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Old 09-30-2011, 09:54 PM   #93
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BRIS pps Jackie Davis listed to ride
Also listed to ride 6 at Suffolk. Looks like it might be true
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Old 09-30-2011, 09:56 PM   #94
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Latest forecast states showers, mainly before 10am...which is a good thing...
Who cares? Apparently, the card stinks.
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:18 PM   #95
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Also listed to ride 6 at Suffolk. Looks like it might be true
R Davis is listed as trainer , I saw that at Saratoga closing weekend as well.
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:21 PM   #96
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Just read that Sandyinthesun is definately Robbie Davis' first starter as a trainer. It was him I saw at the Spa but didn't quite recognize.
Anything is possible though because Robbie does want to ride again.
I saw Al mentioned Robbie earlier Robbie trained the horse.

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Old 09-30-2011, 11:02 PM   #97
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Who cares? Apparently, the card stinks.
You post this bulls--t and then you start this thread:




Jockey Club Gold Cup Card: Terrific.
Jockey Club Gold Cup Day, always an important day of racing, once again is a terrific card on which intelligent handicappers and passionate fans -- who have proper perspective -- can focus, enjoy, and thrive.

Since Belmont Park is in New York State, it is reasonable to begin the day with a large, state-bred race for two-year-olds -- hence, fresh faces, not retreads ( I said retreads) -- on turf, which routinely produces realistic possibilities for nice payoffs. Looking at the breeding of many entrants, you can envision a reasonably competitive race.

Two additional races by two-year-olds follow: both are Maiden Special Weight fields. Both fields -- in both theory and reality -- are suitable for a big race day. Showcasing the future is hardly disappointing on this day.

The fourth race is suspect, no doubt. At least you are handicapping a large field on the turf.

With a strong 6/5 morning line favorite, the Flower Bowl drew eight horses.

The Turf Classic is a short field. It does, however, have a 4/5 morning line choice. Among the other five horses, there are two multiple Grade One winners, a Grade One winner who is also Grade One placed, a dual Grade Two winner, and a stakes winner who is Grade One placed.

Vosburgh: Got better? Show me where.

The Kelso -- which should be on the grass, but that is for another thread -- has the Cigar Mile champ, the best 7F horse in the country on dirt currently, and the reigning two-year-old champ who ran a fantastic comeback in a Grade One last month.

Sure, the Beldame is light: Have de Grace is running in it. For the uninformed, she is a frontrunner for Horse-of-the-Year. The Grade One Alabama Stakes winner is in the field, too.

Is the Gold Cup on par with the historical standard for this grand race? No. How many races -- in this era, where, as it was pointed out, owners and trainers routinely "duck" each other -- measure up to their standards of yesteryear? How many?

Considering how little historical perspective and proper context exists in Internet Land, I am not surprised that this card rates as "disappointing" or worse.

Enjoy the day of terrific racing at Belmont Park.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:57 PM   #98
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Jockey Club Gold Cup Card: Terrific.
Jockey Club Gold Cup Day, always an important day of racing, once again is a terrific card on which intelligent handicappers and passionate fans -- who have proper perspective -- can focus, enjoy, and thrive.

Since Belmont Park is in New York State, it is reasonable to begin the day with a large, state-bred race for two-year-olds -- hence, fresh faces, not retreads ( I said retreads) -- on turf, which routinely produces realistic possibilities for nice payoffs. Looking at the breeding of many entrants, you can envision a reasonably competitive race.

Two additional races by two-year-olds follow: both are Maiden Special Weight fields. Both fields -- in both theory and reality -- are suitable for a big race day. Showcasing the future is hardly disappointing on this day.

The fourth race is suspect, no doubt. At least you are handicapping a large field on the turf.

With a strong 6/5 morning line favorite, the Flower Bowl drew eight horses.

The Turf Classic is a short field. It does, however, have a 4/5 morning line choice. Among the other five horses, there are two multiple Grade One winners, a Grade One winner who is also Grade One placed, a dual Grade Two winner, and a stakes winner who is Grade One placed.

Vosburgh: Got better? Show me where.

The Kelso -- which should be on the grass, but that is for another thread -- has the Cigar Mile champ, the best 7F horse in the country on dirt currently, and the reigning two-year-old champ who ran a fantastic comeback in a Grade One last month.

Sure, the Beldame is light: Have de Grace is running in it. For the uninformed, she is a frontrunner for Horse-of-the-Year. The Grade One Alabama Stakes winner is in the field, too.

Is the Gold Cup on par with the historical standard for this grand race? No. How many races -- in this era, where, as it was pointed out, owners and trainers routinely "duck" each other -- measure up to their standards of yesteryear? How many?

Considering how little historical perspective and proper context exists in Internet Land, I am not surprised that this card rates as "disappointing" or worse.

Enjoy the day of terrific racing at Belmont Park.
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Old 10-01-2011, 12:53 AM   #99
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Latest forecast states showers, mainly before 10am...which is a good thing...
Just looked at the long range radar mosaic in the National Weather Service website.
Precip is moving south to north with little easterly movement.
Forecast map...fronts....http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/nationa...st/natfcst.php
This is the current surface map....Look at the east coast. Not good for tomorrow. Hopefully, the rain will not be steady.
http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/html/sf..._exp_test.html
I think it sucks that such a great day of racing is going to be affected by bad weather.
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I'm looking at the radar right now, and it does look like the rain will be outta here by morning...
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:30 PM   #101
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The odds on this race seem all messed up:

7-1 on Ice Box?
5-2 on Flat Out/Birdrun?
11-1 on Rodman?
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:43 PM   #102
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On Betfair, Flat out is 9-5 (only him, no entry) and ST is 2-1 currently.
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:45 PM   #103
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Flat out is in GOOD FORM.

rodman is interesting underneath
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:46 PM   #104
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stay thirsty birdrun box.
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:49 PM   #105
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boy this handicap division is something horrible.


goes also to show just how bad 3YO crop is going 2 turns.
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