The perfect response to the hysteria over Helsinki

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

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I knew you'd show up eventually agreeing with him on it.

[reckless]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Nothing so drastic, I'm sure. Shipping them off to re-education camps would be the humane solution.

Yeah yeah, oh those stupid Trump supporters. Total a-holes. Each and every Trump supporter is a dope and low information, alt-right idiot.

Yes, I guess we should have listened to the people on here who have often claimed that they are conservative and Republicans ... and no one else!

You must know who they, the ones that said that ...

Trump won't win the GOP nomination because he's a New York liberal ...

Trump is using the debates only for new material for his Reality Show he's going to have in the fall ...

Being in New York real estate is nothing, no big deal ...

... Donald Trump is well-known in the real estate world and has sold some of the most expensive properties in the U.S. The Trump Organization real estate portfolio includes properties in Virginia, Illinois, Florida, New Jersey, Nevada, California, New York, Connecticut and Hawaii. New York makes up the bulk of this portfolio with ownership of some of the most expensive and tallest properties in the state. His international properties can be found in Canada, Turkey, Panama, South Korea, the Philippines, India, and Uruguay.

https://www.investopedia.com/updates...#ixzz5LdWBOVU4

I digress. Back to basics, comrades.

Having the highest rated TV for 15 straight years is nothing said one Trump critic on here ... Owning and starring in the most profitable property while under the umbrella of a (once great) international industrial giant, General Electric/NBC is no big deal ...

Another self-proclaimed 'conservative' truth detector said that ...

Mitt Romney's resume is more impressive than Donald Trump's... and sadly said ...

Bill Clinton's history of multiple rapes and countless instances of sexual abuse doesn't matter because he isn't president now.

A few more examples of stupid analysis of Trump ...

The 'conservative' and 'real' Republican each said that ....

Trump is a such a dope on business matters, that ...

Trump will never get companies to re-locate back to the USA.

Truth is companies indeed have returned by many against their best judgement.

Trump called Boeing's and Lockheed's bluff bluff when Trump accused them of ripping the American taxpayer. The two 'experts' on here said Trump will lose this fight. Trump didn't. End of talk on this from the 'conservative' and the 'real' Republican.

Let's fast forward to right now ...

Both of these geniuses have been part of the hate Trump brigade that's been saying lately that Trump is soft on Russia and that Putin cleaned his clock...

Just days before Trump admonished Angela Merkel because of her singular deal with Putin for oil and natural gas. He told her it was wrong to enable Russia by supporting them with this deal .... he also reminded her that this deal sticks a knife in the back of her EU partners and violated the NATO agreements.

That didn't sound like a guy who is soft on Russia, does it? No! And Trump said this in public and in full view of the world, Russia included. And then Trump visited Putin, after the NATO meeting. Obama said that he told Putin to 'cut it out'. No hard proof of this, just the media taking the word of a failed, lying Obama.

Trump also killed Russians in Syria bombings; gave financial aid and military aid to the Ukraine, and much more. What did Obama do? Nothing! And Hillary? Oh she illegally sold them Uranium for campaign Clinton cash. And there are idiots on here that said Trump committed treason following the Helsinki meeting. Such stupidity, but not unexpected.

And on trade, once again they get it wrong. The US economy will crater, they predict, because of his tariffs. Also said that Trump isn't smart enough to re-negotiate the onerous unfair trade deals. As I type this, Theresa May just announced that the UK will begin bi-lateral trade negotiations with Trump beginning July 25. EU? Who needs the EU when you are an independent, sovereign nation.

(As I type this the Dow closed today at 25,200 ... many international companies beat estimates on higher sales and earnings and many guided higher, a rel sign of confidence in the US economy and US president. Unemployment is at an all-time low; business confidence at an all-time high. Gee, that Trump is clueless. Another reminder: the Dow was 17,800 before American's historic and deserved election of Donald Trump.)

Too many so-called 'conservative' or 'Republican' critics on here believe they have earned some street cred simply by knocking Trump.

It might just help their cause if they knew what they talking about, and from July 2015 onward they've proven to be in total ignorance on all matters Trump.

It also might help their cause to get a thing or two right once in awhile. But simply shipping them off to re-education school won't work either because they know everything.

They are never right, but they do know everything and are never in doubt. Just ask them.

But the real problem on here is ... all you Trump supporters!! You all are low information, alt-right idiots. Got that!!!

[Show Me the Wire]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

I never thought we had ANY people like this. So if we have one, I am going to assume, for my safety's sake anyway, that we probably have more.

I missed this post. From your earlier posts, I understood other members may have threatened violence towards you in pms.

In light of this post I understand thask's prior comments about naming names.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

1. I think improving our relationship with Russia is probably the most obviously correct move imaginable.

How is talking to them a worse idea than further confrontation except in the minds of mentally deranged war mongers?

2. Trump is CORRECT that a big part of the deterioration in the relationship is the US's fault. We were the ones that stirred the pot in Ukraine because a pro Russian government was "democratically elected" . The west was hoping to add Ukraine to NATO and further encroach despite promises we would not. But those former Soviet satellites are critical to Russia because they act like a buffer between the west and the Russian border. If I was the president of Russia I would have invaded Crimea also to ensure I held on to the Naval base there. He had to do that as a matter of self defense if the west was moving closer to his border by interfering.

Putin may be a thug and former communist KGB, but the neocons, CIA and rest of the deep state are bunch of mentally ill deranged psychopathic war mongers. They are sick people. The sooner we purge all of them from government and the intelligence community, start doing business with Russia, and improve relations the better. If we can do business with the communists in China, we can do business with Putin. At the very least we should be talking and cooperating where we can to reduce the risk of war.

The media is horrific. What a bunch of slime ball scumbags.

Well when someone makes a effort in a high stakes arena like this, if they impress you that they are serious to constructively work with you, maybe your business acumen says a carrot is in order. I think the left wanted a bonfire preventing a televised event in Russia, obviously the carrot was too big for the left to take. Anything that paved the way in making the left to look like inept, unaccomplished dummy's that they are is unacceptable to them even if it makes the world safer. I am not saying Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is not all the things people say he is, but I am saying he is ready to make deals. The kind of deals that are generational that others may not even vision possible, to quote President Donald J. Trump "who knows". You resident experts here are the same cross section of morons we see on television, with cable television and 300+ channels of poor content we need you too right? I have said this before, get over yourself.

This post was not intended for the poster I hitched the reply to.

Yes mistakes in English with the commas SFW

Time for Bing to sing.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

I knew you'd show up eventually agreeing with him on it.

I'm not suffering from any extreme emotionally driven pro or anti Trump fervor like so many other people.

There's a list of things I think are right and wrong, better or worse, etc..

I've been following the actions of war mongering psychopaths like McCain and his neocon and cold war buddies all along. They've killed millions of innocent people by getting us into unnecessary wars with lies and deception. They've never seen a country they didn't want to impose their will on and they don't care how many innocents have to do it. They do everything they accuse Russia of and worse. They are literally mentally ill people. If they keep running foreign policy a confrontation inevitable.

I was following the events in Ukraine before Crimea. It was so obviously our fault I'm not sure why it's even a debate.

If you can disassociate yourself from Trump being the one to try reverse decades of utter stupidity (pretend it's your favorite guy instead) it's pretty clear that the right move is to talk to Russia, cooperate where we can, try to avoid confrontation, and admit that part of the problem has been us so we stop making the same mistakes.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

I saw some ________'s meltdown last night. I didn't see any comments, by him stating PA should be hanged. Was ______'s post deleted, if so that is why I didn't see it.

Now you have me more confused. Why would you call PA irresponsible for not naming the member, if it was already public board knowledge that ______ said it?

He said Trump was a traitor and people who support him should be hanged. It's all in there. Unfortunately.

I'm just faking all this safe room snowflake stuff anyway.

People are free to post whatever crazy nonsense comes into their heads...and if it gets to be too much, I just kick them out the door. No sweat on my end.

[Tom]

2. Trump is CORRECT that a big part of the deterioration in the relationship is the US's fault.

This is true.
The RUSSIANS were able to hack the DNC servers because the dems are so totally inept that they have no idea what computer security is all about.
To prove my point, they defend the idiot Hillary setting up a server in her freaking bathroom! And sending top secret material to anyone who wanted a recipe!

[PaceAdvantage]

What's this buzz about China hacked Hillary's server, but it was covered up so as not to totally **** up her chances?

Probably just another tin-foil hat theory...nothing to see there...

Trump is evil monkey man. That's all that matters.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

I'm not suffering from any extreme emotionally driven pro or anti Trump fervor like so many other people.

There's a list of things I think are right and wrong, better or worse, etc..

I've been following the actions of war mongering psychopaths like McCain and his neocon and cold war buddies all along. They've killed millions of innocent people by getting us into unnecessary wars with lies and deception. They've never seen a country they didn't want to impose their will on and they don't care how many innocents have to do it. They do everything they accuse Russia of and worse. They are literally mentally ill people. If they keep running foreign policy a confrontation inevitable.

I was following the events in Ukraine before Crimea. It was so obviously our fault I'm not sure why it's even a debate.

If you can disassociate yourself from Trump being the one to try reverse decades of utter stupidity (pretend it's your favorite guy instead) it's pretty clear that the right move is to talk to Russia, cooperate where we can, try to avoid confrontation, and admit that part of the problem has been us so we stop making the same mistakes.

We've discussed it in the past.

I already knew where you stood but at least you're consistent.

I'm not a neocon or a warmongerer but I disagree with you and Trump on the issue.

[FantasticDan]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

He said Trump was a traitor and people who support him should be hanged. It's all in there. Unfortunately.

He also said this:

I’m pretty sure I can dance around any implied threat here by explaining my “going to war” and “supporters should be hung” verbiage as mere flourishes. Nothing more than an overheated response to someone who suggested that the fascism of this administration is nothing more than what liberals deserved in another thread.

I am not making any personal threats to anyone here. But that doesn’t mean I’m not at war with the fascist white nationalist movement Trump represents and that everyone here wants to whistle past the graveyard over.

How many times has Tom suggested this person should be killed or that person should die? 100? 1000?

But _______ gets banned for it? A guy who brings a level of IQ to the conversation that the alt-righties here can't even count to?

I think you're just tired of getting your ass kicked..

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Courtesy of the Great One:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7YY99vV8d8

The Great One? That's a joke. Levin is a loud mouthed shrimp.

Let's start with Yalta and the claim that Roosevelt gave away half of Europe. I February 1945 Soviet troops were within forty miles of Berlin and controlled all or most of Poland, Hungary, Austria, Romania, Bulgaria, and Yugoslavia. American troops were hundreds of miles to the west of the advancing Russians. The Russians had three times as many troops in the European theater as the Americans and their allies, and no one in America had the slightest desire to engage in a protracted struggle with the Soviet Union. You see, it is always easier to fight a war sitting in front of a computer or behind a radio microphone than if you are in the trenches or sending men into harms way.


Then again, if you are Stalin, who was a psychopath or Levin, who is a big mouth and nothing more, that is not a problem.


As for Roosevelt praising Stalin, as NJ Stinks pointed out the Soviet Union was our ally and was definitely instrumental in defeating Nazi Germany.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

Yes, excellent! Was looking for this video in include with my post...am glad that you found it so quickly.

Bottom line: had Hillary been elected there never would have been an ounce of Russian investigation into anything. What's that tell you? No one would have cared any more than any one has for the last fifty years; just a lot of cheap talk and no action...."cut it out!"

Sure, Russia won this one all right; not because of anything that Trump said or didn't say, but because of the lynch-mob mentality that grew out of this particular summit. How stupid and hypocritical this mob is! It's all of YOU mob participants who have earned your way right into the age-old Russian playbook...

“We will take America without firing a shot ... we will bury you!"

“We can’t expect the American people to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have communism." (listening, Snappit?)

“We do not have to invade the United States, we will destroy you from within.”

These are quotes attributed to the late Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev.

As to our intelligence agencies: shouldn't they be brilliant enough to be able to prevent foreign intelligence invasions before they happen? Shouldn't they be brilliant enough to know the covert games and be able to stay ahead of the technology? Shouldn't they be brilliant enough to be able to dissect information accurately before getting us into a war, e.g. those weapons of mass destruction? Shouldn't they?? Yet, Trump (or anyone) being skeptical of their abilities and, considering the current revelations of the 'witch hunt,' their possible intentions is considered, by some, to be a traitor and is guilty of treason? Gross political pornography!!

This Helsinki summit hysteria is disgustingly ABSURD, and the Demos and some Repubs are disgusting hypocrites!

Hey Rip Van Winkle, Wake up. Russia is no longer a Communist dictatorship. It is now an oligarchy run by billionaires. What Kruschev said 60 year ago is as irrelevant as most of your posts now.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

It's called perspective. Having a sense of history. Knowing when to actually FREAK OUT over something worth freaking out about.

Not freak out because you, political opponents of Trump (this includes media), think by doing so you can cripple him some more.

You see, never in my lifetime have I ever seen important figures in media and politics call the POTUS the names Trump has been called his entire tenure...and especially after Helsinki.

But they do it now. For what? For what he said at Helsinki? Really?

That's why the Mark Levin perspective is important here.

What is going on with the response to Trump is FAR MORE dangerous than anything Trump has done to date. Infinitely more dangerous in fact.

But, once again, those on the far left, some Republicans and fake conservatives are setting the dangerous precedent that will only come back to haunt them one day.

That's because never in your lifetime or anyone's has there been a POTUS as deserving of such treatment.

[Show Me the Wire]

Originally Posted by mostpost

That's because never in your lifetime or anyone's has there been a POTUS as deserving of such treatment.

Because the President is evil, correct?

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

He also said this:



How many times has Tom suggested this person should be killed or that person should die? 100? 1000?

But _______ gets banned for it? A guy who brings a level of IQ to the conversation that the alt-righties here can't even count to?

I think you're just tired of getting your ass kicked..

How many times has Tom called Mike rude ugly names, the complete disrespect for Mike warranted exactly Mikes prerogative. Questioning him on this is laughable, much like most of your content.