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01-04-2007, 03:07 PM
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Thx for the link BC, not once did he mention 'illegal', which is your point. Watched it all.
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01-04-2007, 06:31 PM
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Thx for the link BC, not once did he mention 'illegal', which is your point. Watched it all.
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I thought the context of my post made that abundantly clear, i.e. the immigration policies set by our lawmakers -- as in lawful immigration policies.
And, obviously, you missed the major thrust to the arguments presented in that video, i.e. Legal Immigration is Out of Control thanks to the very ill-conceived immigration laws that have been on the books now for quite some time.
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01-04-2007, 07:23 PM
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Son O'War
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I'm agreeing with you boxcar! "...which is your point". Immigration is out of control! I didn't miss anything. Still, thx for the clip, I passed it along
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01-04-2007, 07:27 PM
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so ok ok, what everyone is saying is right on.
do you think that these girls are going to "digest" any direction to be taken what-so-ever concerning 'illegals'?
most are so stuck on "finance' problems, when none exist, to be capable of understanding "what turn to take'.
we have the richest country in the world and growing richer by the minute and these girls stand shaken in their boots.
so these same people are gonna what...? not attempting to be rude, but gees...
the problems (illegals) have been here for quite some time, as your movie shows.
me, , ill take in the view...
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01-05-2007, 08:51 PM
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Just another Facist
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http://www.avpress.com/n/05/0105_s1.hts
Council bans stopping at Four Points
Mayor: It's about safety, not immigration
This story appeared in the Antelope Valley Press on Friday, January 5, 2007.
By BOB WILSON
Valley Press Staff Writer
PALMDALE - The City Council banned vehicles from stopping near the Four Points intersection, which has been a popular gathering spot for day laborers looking for work and in recent months has become the scene of protests against illegal immigration.
The reason given by City Hall staff for banning vehicle stops in the area was the improvement of safety along the city's arterial roadways.
With Councilman Steve Knight absent and without discussion, the council voted 4-0 Wednesday night to prohibit motorists from stopping on:
Pearblossom Highway between 47th Street East and Avenue T;
Fort Tejon Road from 47th Street East to Pearblossom Highway;
Avenue T from Pearblossom Highway to 62nd Street East; and
State Route 138 from Avenue T to Cheseboro Road.
City traffic officers looked at all four locations "and determined that, due to current improvements and resident concerns, it would be in the best interests of the city to prohibit stopping at this time," a staff report to the council showed.
Interviewed before the meeting, Mayor Jim Ledford said the proposal was meant "to address the problem of people stopping, whether it's to hire somebody or do something else." Local government's authority in this case involves public safety, not immigration law, the mayor said.
more at the link
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01-06-2007, 05:48 AM
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How many fronts can we fight at one time?
We're fighting in the middle east. We're fighting for the containment of communism with Russia, Cuba, China, N.Korea. And we're fighting to protect our borders.
Maybe it's time to pull back the reins and do some fighting here at home.
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01-06-2007, 11:27 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Land mines.
Work cheap, work long hours.
Never take vactaion.
Land mines.
The next big thing.
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02-28-2007, 01:30 AM
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03-01-2007, 02:01 AM
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The Illegal immigration issue in the US is a class issue. The upper class is hell bent on breaking the working class in the USA and determined to lower wages. It is nothing new and something that has been happening for many century's. The noticeable difference now is that the cheap labor is from Asia or Central/South America and not Africa/Ireland/Italy.
After WWII the quality of life/cost of labor rose substantially in the USA. this increased the cost of production and business substantially. Something had to be done so the plan for the the powers that be, is too break the back of the working class. Too much wealth was lingering at the bottom of the food chain and the elite were determined to bring that wealth back to the top of the food chain. That is why they keep letting cheap illegal labor flow in.
Illegal immigration is all about darkening the American working class, taking away the unions, reducing wages and mixing the races. After time you are left with a working class nation that is powerless and fighting among themselves over petty racial disputes. It is a divide and concur strategy. It is a long term plan to create a mutt worker race with no historic culture that can be controlled and exploited under the guise of diversity. If you are expecting some government agency to step in it is not going to happen. Both parties who if you haven't noticed are the same party. The government is going to allow the plan to move forward if not take steps to accelerate the process.
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03-01-2007, 02:35 AM
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Quote:
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Illegal immigration is all about darkening the American working class, taking away the unions, reducing wages and mixing the races. After time you are left with a working class nation that is powerless and fighting among themselves over petty racial disputes. It is a divide and concur strategy. It is a long term plan to create a mutt worker race with no historic culture that can be controlled and exploited under the guise of diversity.
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I think the term mutt is silly. In America, it's not who your family is, it's who you are as a person.
Why do you call it a darkening of the American working class? Maybe it's a lightening of some American working class minorities?
How does your theory explain Jeb Bush marrying an Hispanic woman? Was his plan to produce dark American mutt kids who will earn low wages and tend toward the American working class?
I may be a mutt, but I can still trace all sides of my family back to various parts of Europe. Mutt that I am, I have a great, great, great, great grandfather who was in the American Revolution.
No historic culture? I don't think so. I think it's great to be an American.
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03-01-2007, 04:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by samyn on the green
Illegal immigration is all about darkening the American working class, taking away the unions, reducing wages and mixing the races. After time you are left with a working class nation that is powerless and fighting among themselves over petty racial disputes. It is a divide and concur strategy. It is a long term plan to create a mutt worker race with no historic culture that can be controlled and exploited under the guise of diversity. If you are expecting some government agency to step in it is not going to happen. Both parties who if you haven't noticed are the same party. The government is going to allow the plan to move forward if not take steps to accelerate the process.
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I nominate this post as post of the week. Wow!
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03-01-2007, 09:36 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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That pretty much is the best post I ever read on the topic.
Now, the pols are even trying to rename "illegal aliens" to "undocumented colleauges!"
What BS!
There is a massive plan in motion to destroy the middle class and disolve the USA - busniness and corrupt government has conspsired to steal the unioin
from us. Bush is one of the ringleaders.
Abondon all hope of any gov help. And get a gun.
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03-01-2007, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
That pretty much is the best post I ever read on the topic.
Now, the pols are even trying to rename "illegal aliens" to "undocumented colleauges!"
What BS!
There is a massive plan in motion to destroy the middle class and disolve the USA - busniness and corrupt government has conspsired to steal the unioin
from us. Bush is one of the ringleaders.
Abondon all hope of any gov help. And get a gun.
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Dear Documented Colleagues,
Thomas Jefferson believed that revoltion was good every once in awhile. Throw the bums out -- shake things up a bit. Maybe it's time?
Of course, while we're in the middle of the revolution who is going to watch the borders? Then again, who is watching them now?
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03-02-2007, 08:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
That pretty much is the best post I ever read on the topic.
Now, the pols are even trying to rename "illegal aliens" to "undocumented colleauges!"
What BS!
There is a massive plan in motion to destroy the middle class and disolve the USA - busniness and corrupt government has conspsired to steal the unioin
from us. Bush is one of the ringleaders.
Abondon all hope of any gov help. And get a gun.
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That's why, in spite of my strong liberal leanings, I am an advocate of the 2nd amendment.
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03-02-2007, 11:04 PM
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Above and below
The game plan is to crush and make subserviant the working and middle classes of the USA by applying pressure from above (ever increasing taxation,erosion of freedoms by more repressive laws,elimination of US soverignty,debasing the currency,etc.),and below (diversity,multiculturalism,illegal immigration,decreased moral values and ethics,erosion of the family,and so on).Why do you think that there is such a frantic push to impose "gun control"?Answer;an armed and aroused citizenry will prevent all of the above to prevail,and therefore must be implemented.A few of you guys can turn in your guns if you wish,but Im keeping mine;in fact Im going to get more,along with plenty of ammo.
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