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01-27-2018, 01:50 PM
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That isn't the same thing. The money is actually up for grabs. That isn't the case for the Pegasus. About half the money is never in play. Listing the purse at 16 million is fake, as are the earnings the horses will be credited with after the race. Surely you can see that.
Like I said, it has turned out to be a great race and the purse is better than the Classic in reality. I just don't see the point of making up fake numbers.
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The point is to prevent Dubai from claiming the title of world's richest race and to disincentivize them from further jacking up the DWC purse.
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01-27-2018, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
The point is to prevent Dubai from claiming the title of world's richest race and to disincentivize them from further jacking up the DWC purse.
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But any idiot can figure out it is a lie.
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01-27-2018, 02:03 PM
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No matter what they call it, Dubai is the real WORLD cup.
GP will NEVER come close to that.
The Pegasus Donn is as far as it goes!
And what is stopping Dubai from doing the exact same phony purse
thing as Franky is doing....other than class and integrity, that is.
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01-27-2018, 02:24 PM
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But any idiot can figure out it is a lie.
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Not necessarily. I bet lots of people- especially folks who are not industry insiders- just assume a $16 million purse is a $16 million purse.
Whuch is really all GP's marketing department needs.
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01-27-2018, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
No matter what they call it, Dubai is the real WORLD cup.
GP will NEVER come close to that.
The Pegasus Donn is as far as it goes!
And what is stopping Dubai from doing the exact same phony purse
thing as Franky is doing....other than class and integrity, that is.
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You just are refusing to acknowledge reality. This isn't the Donn and it is a better race than the DWC. because horses hold off going to stud for it.
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01-27-2018, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
Putting up your own money would be too much like gambling which I think might be prohibited but I'm no expert on the religious stuff..
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Well I remember the sheik said once, betting is not allowed in Dubai, so we call it Pick 6 contest and so on. Seems pretty cool to me.
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01-27-2018, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
You just are refusing to acknowledge reality. This isn't the Donn and it is a better race than the DWC. because horses hold off going to stud for it.
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Holding off horses going to stud makes it a better race???
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01-27-2018, 02:42 PM
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Whuch is really all GP's marketing department needs.
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Franky is counting on the ignorance of people?
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01-27-2018, 02:52 PM
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So far, in its first two runnings, it's attracted the best fields of the year...this year's field is pretty damn awesome...and last year we had CC vs. Arrogate...
It's done its job thus far...I'm not going to complain too much from a fan perspective.
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01-27-2018, 03:02 PM
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Franky is counting on the ignorance of people?
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As are you, every time you place a bet.
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01-27-2018, 03:05 PM
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I'm not a track owner.
I don't have customers.
Hey, love the race - just don't pee on my boots and tell me it's raining. It is a fake purse. And I bet you it is mis-timed today.
Truly world-class.
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01-27-2018, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
That isn't the same thing. The money is actually up for grabs. That isn't the case for the Pegasus. About half the money is never in play. Listing the purse at 16 million is fake, as are the earnings the horses will be credited with after the race. Surely you can see that.
Like I said, it has turned out to be a great race and the purse is better than the Classic in reality. I just don't see the point of making up fake numbers.
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Look, you guys need to get over this. It took putting up this kind of money to get the horses, to get the crowd, to get it on freaking NBC. So what if they have to make this palatable to the slot owners and worked with them to do so, tweaking it here, tweaking it there. They're trying to grow it into a mainstay and it's a huge idea in its infancy.
It doesn't affect a single one of you negatively. It doesn't harm the horses or racing. It's a good thing, giving a card that people are staying home to watch all day. So let it go already. No, we can't compete on an equal level with a man who takes the resources of a country as his own. But if this works, it may replace the DWC for Americans, keeping our runners here instead of losing up to half a year of racing in America after going to Dubai.
This is all good. Don't *itch about it.
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01-27-2018, 04:14 PM
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But any idiot can figure out it is a lie.
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What about putting on the DWC where basically it's only the home track for your own runners? Where many have to undergo severe travels? It's a great way for him to have a big advantage giving his own horses black type?
This has never occurred to anyone here? Just the nonsense that a $16m purse is a "lie" (which it's not, as it's the purse amount, period, no matter how far they pay out).
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01-27-2018, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
What about putting on the DWC where basically it's only the home track for your own runners? Where many have to undergo severe travels? It's a great way for him to have a big advantage giving his own horses black type?
This has never occurred to anyone here? Just the nonsense that a $16m purse is a "lie" (which it's not, as it's the purse amount, period, no matter how far they pay out).
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Two totally different things. And yes, it is a lie, even if you can't figure it out.
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01-27-2018, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
I'm not a track owner.
I don't have customers.
Hey, love the race - just don't pee on my boots and tell me it's raining. It is a fake purse. And I bet you it is mis-timed today.
Truly world-class.
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Boots? Cowboys don't whine. I envision you wear ballerina slippers.
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