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Old 01-03-2008, 06:45 AM   #871
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Still no NYRA deal
By: Kaitlyn Ross
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Joe Bruno, the Republican Senate Majority Leader said, "Why don't we have a deal? A permanent deal? Why don't we talk about it?"

… what happens after January 23rd is still a big question mark. Bruno said, "We need reform, where is it? Everything that happens is behind closed doors?"

So why all the secrecy? According to Bruno, it's infighting about the committee members on the oversight committee, money for Video Lottery Terminals and exactly how long NYRA would have control over racing.

… Bruno hinted at a three year deal that's in the works with NYRA which would have specific bench marks for them to hit. He won't say anymore.

Money for VLT's and the number of committee members don't have a direct impact on the Spa City, but Bruno said unless they're addressed, he's not going forward. Bruno said, "The real deal breaker here is do you just go forward and rubber stamp the status qou which is so clearly broken? Or do you change it and say we have a real chance for change for growth and huge success?"

… Bruno said, "I'm saying that it's there. I need the gov to come into town and sit and say, 'what are the outstanding issues?' And the speaker to come in and say, 'what are the outstanding issues?' let's pick 'em off, we'll do it in twenty minutes!" …
Maybe it's Bruno that gets excited when people talk to him.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:34 AM   #872
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Not sure how keeping people (New Yorkers) from destroying there lives and losing their money is a bad thing for the state to restrict or delay(not that the state delayed the slots for these reasons). Slots are crimnal and do way more harm then helping. I can't imagine that helping a few thousand horseman make a better living is worth slealing millions of dollars from the people.The whole lottery system save the huge jackpots are basic violations on what government is suppose to do. Government was created to protect not to disable people..

As much as I love racing I still think slots are a horrible way to defer it's continued demise.
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http://elmontcivic.blogspot.com/2007/12/why-say-no-to-vlts.html
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"The Voice of the People" Elmont, Long Island, New York
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Why Say No to VLTs?
There are numerous reasons why we oppose VLTs. Below are just some of the reasons.
1. VLTs provide the most addicting version of gambling. It is highly visual, quick and easy in that it requires no skills. VLTs display the greatest rate of gambling addicts. When gambling appears in a community, it brings a wave of addiction. In a mature gambling market, compulsive gambling typically seizes the lives of 1.5% to 2.5% of the adult population. That amounts to three to five times the number of people suffering from cancer. The New York Times published that brining VLTs is like going on the Wrong Track. And I quote, "The state should not be expanding gambling at its racetracks - the euphemistically named slot machines that are a gambler's version of crack cocaine."
There are ten more points supporting the first one above.
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… We agree in a plan for beautification. We agree with a plan to improve upon the restaurants (3-4) already inside Belmont Park and perhaps add another. We agree to install stores and shops. We also would be in favor of a convention center / hotel inside Belmont Park, similar in nature to the historic club house demolished in 1960. Something that will highlight and showcase the historic nature of the grounds. There is no need for VLTs nor their consequences. ...
I found the link to the civic opinion blog in the following Moran Blog entry comment section:

http://paulmoranattheraces.blogspot....-possible.html
Saving Belmont from the VLT Huns

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… regarding the VLT question and Belmont. It is payback politics. Senator Skelos, of Nassau County, is the second in command to Senator Bruno. The connection to the rejection of the VLTs is clear. That said, what the world doesn't need is another casino. It is not the panacea that the government believes for financial woes. Ask the folks at Gulfstream. Better racetracks are needed-not more slots.
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Everyone remains fascinated by the history of Saratoga. It's a shame that everyone forgot that Belmont has a far much richer, and more famous history. In addition, Belmont's history is not limited to just horse racing.
VLTs are being pushed by NYS Republicans, not necessarily ToH Republicans. That needs to be cleared out.
A good majority of the people surrounding Belmont Park are actually not to favor of them. Hopefully, Belmont Park will retain its quality of horse racing and its legacy and that its image is not hindered by that of VLTs.
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Old 01-03-2008, 03:23 PM   #873
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Bruno, Spitzer sniping escalates as NY racing awaits its fate
by Paul Post
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… Silver recently told the New York Daily News that Bruno only wants to talk about racing, while many other state problems need solving.

“The governor has expressed his willingness to sit down and govern,” he said. “The NYRA issue, basically, Senator Bruno has said that’s the only issue you can talk about. I’m sorry, there are other issues.”

New York is losing huge sums of potential revenue to Canada and neighboring states, such as Connecticut and New Jersey that have full-blown casinos. Also, Pennsylvania has 62,000 slot machines “while we‘ve been fiddling for the past four years,” Bruno said.

… Silver has remained firm in his belief that gaming should be limited to Aqueduct alone. Staff members have declined to explain his reasoning.

“The governor agrees with us,” Bruno said about Belmont gaming. “Where is the speaker living?”

… Bruno also wants the next franchise to include community advisory boards that would provide input and oversight for the way each track is run.

Bruno said Silver is opposed to community oversight.

… Bruno, however, says that plan [MOU] does not give horsemen a fair share of revenues and he has called for the resignation of the current NYRA board, which he said has been plagued by “mediocrity and failure.“

He said new people are needed to bring fresh ideas and input to the association, but he said top executive positions are an internal matter that should be decided by NYRA itself.
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/03/silver-wont-quit-his-second-job/
Silver Won’t Quit His Second Job
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… “To my knowledge, I’m not under investigation as a result of my second job,” Mr. Silver said, referring to the fact that Mr. Bruno is facing a federal inquiry into his outside business interests. “I didn’t think I needed to make that statement, so I’m currently contemplating continuing to live within the law, making disclosures that are required by the law, and do that.”
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… Last month, Mr. Bruno left his longtime post at a Connecticut investment company, Wright Investors’ Service, after a report in The New York Times detailed the company’s handling of tens of millions of pension fund dollars for more than half a dozen union locals in and around the senator’s district. Neither Mr. Bruno nor the company has ever said what he did beyond “business development.”

... “Let me very clearly state that nobody ever raised any serious questions about the kind of work that I do, it’s on my ethics form, and as far as certain principles that I might believe in, whether I give up a second job or not is not going to change my core beliefs in terms of who should be responsible to causing damages and injury to individual people.”

… He made his comments after a press conference to unveil a new Assembly plan to aid homeowners facing default. Among other things during a question-and-answer session, he reiterated his opposition to putting video gambling machines at Belmont, a sticking point in torturous negotiations over the future of the state’s three thoroughbred racing tracks — Belmont, Aqueduct and Saratoga.

… Asked about Mr. Bruno’s recent statements that the speaker has become overly beholden to the governor, Mr. Silver said: “The first principle we learned in law school was that if you’re wrong on the facts and you’re wrong on the law, dazzle ‘em with your baloney. I don’t know how far the senator went in law school, but he has that principle down.”
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Relating to Silver from the article:

"Silver has remained firm in his belief that gaming should be limited to Aqueduct alone. Staff members have declined to explain his reasoning."

"Bruno said Silver is opposed to community oversight."


This Silver is a nightmare. He has his blasted mitts in so many pockets it's ridiculous.

We're screwed
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:09 PM   #875
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Relating to Silver from the article:

"Silver has remained firm in his belief that gaming should be limited to Aqueduct alone. Staff members have declined to explain his reasoning."

"Bruno said Silver is opposed to community oversight."


This Silver is a nightmare. He has his blasted mitts in so many pockets it's ridiculous.

We're screwed
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Permit me to play devil’s advocate here.

What has Silver done to incur horseplayer wrath? He supports the MOU. He appears to be against slots at BEL, not as an anti-gambling advocate, but from a community preservation standpoint. (Is he against Indian Casinos?). He’s been accused of wanting to keep slots out of BEL to divert all the revenue to Queens (NYC?), but how will they maximize slot revenue with competing racinos so close together and why should racing be de-emphasized at both venues?

Is his priority for non-racing issues unjustified? He’s not standing in Spitzer’s way with regard to the franchise…only Bruno’s whose goals and motives are questionable at best.

I don’t follow the other political issues in NY, but Silver apparently has served long enough to acquire unreasonable power, and on that basis alone, should probably be replaced (assuming it would be by someone no less competent) at the same time Bruno is.

I’m sure I’ll hear plenty for this post.
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Old 01-04-2008, 02:16 AM   #876
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New York Franchise a War of Words
by Tom Precious
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… After weeks of pounding by Republicans, Democratic Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver charged that Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno is to blame for the lack of progress. Silver said a deal could have been made in August if the senator was serious about resolving the matter.

After Bruno questioned Silver’s leadership abilities, it was the Manhattan Democrat’s turn on Jan. 3. He said if Bruno had “cooperated” with the Assembly and Gov. Eliot Spitzer during the summer, the current scenario for New York’s Thoroughbred racing franchise would have been avoided.

Silver also accused Bruno of trying to keep intact two current state government regulatory panels that are dominated by Republicans appointed by the previous governor, George Pataki. And he said Bruno’s franchise plan calls for driving some proceeds from a video lottery terminal casino at Aqueduct--along with one the senator wants at Belmont Park--to Republican-led towns and schools in the districts of Bruno’s fellow GOP lawmakers.

… “He’s not telling the truth,” McArdle said of Silver. He said Assembly negotiators also “blew off” a closed-door meeting Jan. 2 to try to resolve differences between the sides.

… Silver again voiced his opposition to a VLT casino at Belmont. Aqueduct in 2001 was approved for a casino development, but a host of factors has kept the facility from being built.

“Belmont VLTs are the least important issue in this state,” Silver said.

Silver said the “case has not been made” that a casino in Belmont would work. He said having another casino so close to Aqueduct’s future facility would saturate the market. He also dismissed estimates that the casinos would generate $400 or more per machine in daily revenue.
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This slot issue is the biggest cash grab in New York since the Lufthansa Heist from JFK. The democrat slots at Aqueduct and the Republican slots at Belmont. Nobody gets a thing until everyone gets a piece of the action.

Does anyone else get the impression that the only people that realize what is happening in NY politics are horse players? No where else do I see this blatant corruption reported or talked about. I am embarrassed that I pay taxes to support this boondoggle.
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This slot issue is the biggest cash grab in New York since the Lufthansa Heist from JFK. The democrat slots at Aqueduct and the Republican slots at Belmont. Nobody gets a thing until everyone gets a piece of the action.

Does anyone else get the impression that the only people that realize what is happening in NY politics are horse players? No where else do I see this blatant corruption reported or talked about. I am embarrassed that I pay taxes to support this boondoggle.

It's all about the Benjamins. What else is new?
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… Silver told reporters today he continues to dislike the notion of video lottery terminals at Belmont Park and doesn’t understand why supporters of such betting machines have such loftly expectations of revenues from them.

Silver said putting VLTs at Belmont would likely hurt a proposed casino at the Aqueduct track and the one already struggling at Yonkers Raceway, where per-machine revenues are well below expectations.

“People who have sold this idea of VLTts say $400 a day in revenue. It hasn’t happened anywhere in the state - not at Yonkers . . . Monticello. None of them have broken $200 a day. To put more machines five minutes from the existing authorization is only going to provide a saturation of machines . . . I really don’t understand, and the case has not been made to me . … as to why these machines at Belmont are so critical to the operation of the State of New York.” …
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/01/04/2008-01-04_silver_opposes_belmont_video_lottery-1.html
Silver opposes Belmont video lottery
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Silver said he was out to prevent a "saturation" of gambling in the city and suburbs. He said gamblers will have plenty of opportunities to risk their money at Aqueduct, once the Queens track becomes a full-fledged "racino" featuring thousands of VLTs. The harness race track in Yonkers already has the machines, he said.

… Despite the delays, Silver insisted, "Negotiations are now moving ahead," and the franchise agreement could be hashed out by the time an extension awarded to the New York Racing Association expires on Jan. 23.

A spokesman for Bruno said Belmont, located in Nassau County just across the Queens border, needs VLTs to become "a true tourist destination." …
http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=652381&category=OPINION&newsdate =1/4/2008
NYRA's board blinked, and horse racing in New York won
By Fred LeBrun
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at the end of the day there will be few surprises over the franchise renewal. NYRA will run racing, Saratoga will remain unchanged and largely unaffected; there will be no VLTs at Belmont, and Aqueduct will be essentially a casino with horse sweat.

The major hold-up in getting a permanent agreement has been the bone-headed board of trustees governing NYRA. The current board has been unusually stubborn about staying in place, and that's caused all kinds of delay. For the longest time, the assumption was the governor's office had the resignations of the sitting board members in hand, and that members would eventually do their duty. That turned out to be not so. And efforts to remove the sitting board met with extreme resistance, creating a frustrating impasse.

… The latest board-busting move worked out between Assembly Speaker Shelly Silver, the governor and Bruno simply shrinks the size of the board, and its makeup. Bruno has been instrumental in insisting the new board have a far broader representation from the horse racing industry than the current owners and breeders.

NYRA will continue to have a majority on the new board, but with nine fewer actual appointees than it has now. A neat twist of the knife, because in that arrangement NYRA has to reduce its own representation and sack some board members who are adamant on staying.

… Bruno is right for wanting more transparent oversight of NYRA, and changing the makeup of the governing board. That, and getting quality individuals on the new board, which comes at the insistence of the governor's office.

Along with the reconstituted board, we are apt to see new benchmarks established to grade NYRA periodically on how it's doing compared to the rest of the country, and advisory groups peeking in on its activities …
http://leftatthegate.blogspot.com/20...tes-jan-3.html
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… I have it on good authority that the take at Yonkers is over $200 - it was reported to be $230 in this column from October - but Silver certainly makes a reasonable point given the disappointing VLT numbers we've seen. If there's only to be one racino, I personally think that Belmont makes a lot of sense for a number of reasons. Besides it size and accessibility via the railroad, an upscale establishment at Belmont could be marketed to the affluent Long Island suburbs just to its east; people who can actually afford it. I could see my parents making the trip from nearby Manhasset to see Steve and Edyie at Belmont; but probably not in Ozone Park.

OK, maybe in Ozone Park too. The fact is that without slots, Aqueduct would probably shut down, which would be a disaster for New York racing as far as I'm concerned, so of course it has to have them. Silver is looking to tie other issues in with the franchise, and will certainly demand a heavy price for his giving in on the issue. …
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Video of Silver at this link:

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/your_news/saratoga/?SecID=231&ArID=228633
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... Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver fired back at Senate Majority Leader Joe Bruno, saying that it's the senator who's holding up the deal.

Silver said, "It's only now that we've reached these final critical days and deadlines that the Senate is finally starting to look at these issues."

… Silver said, "I don't really understand. The case hasn't been made to me or the members of the Democratic conference as to why these machines in Belmont are so critical to the State of New York. It's almost unrealistic to make that assumption."

… Regardless of the progress on the machines, Silver said they're making headway.

Silver said, "Let me now make it clear. The negotiations are now moving forward in a positive direction. Details are being worked out."

The exact details of that elusive agreement have been sparse. NYRA, Governor Spitzer, Bruno and Silver have been tight-lipped about the arrangement.

Silver said, "Clearly we're moving forward, but we're not ready to declare victory." …
http://paulmoranattheraces.blogspot.com/2008/01/all-in-neighborhood.html
ALL In The Neighborhood
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… configuration of the NYRA board of trustees with an increase in political appointments. Since there is no pay associated with membership on the board, these are unlikely to be high level appointments made by the governor, assembly speaker and senate majority leader. It may be difficult to get these people to meetings without the promise of free lunch.
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Sen. Joe Bruno wants certain performance standards met in relation to attendance and purse guarantees. What’s wrong with this man? Attendance is no longer a meaningful issue. Someone please tell the senator about OTB, in-home simulcasting, phone accounts and the Internet. Purses are set by statue. They are already guaranteed and are expected to increase by about 30 percent after the VLT casino at Aqueduct is operational. Bruno has a great capacity for creating the illusion of issues where none exist. ..
The now unrestrained Moran then proceeded
to deal with the “issue of community involvement.”

http://leftatthegate.blogspot.com/2008/01/bruno-seeking-higher-horsemen-cut.html
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… I criticized the Senate Majority Leader for taking stances which I felt were more self-serving than for the good of the industry, questioning why, for example, he wasn't pressing for a larger cut of slots money for horsemen.
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Well, he is. …
… Bruno says that the plan does not give horsemen a fair share of revenues. The MOU grants horsemen only 6.5% of slots revenue. That's less than any of the present racinos at the state's harness tracks; and pending legislation contains percentages of 8.25% and 8.75% in the Senate and Assembly versions respectively (with a carve-out allowing NYRA to have their own agreement).

I'd like to believe that Bruno is sincerely standing up for the industry against Spitzer and Silver, neither of whom have shown any indication that they care at all.

… I'd certainly like to hear more talk from the Senator of consolidating the OTB's, or of demanding a written plan on physical improvements to the downstate tracks.
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… As far as the horseman's cut, it sounds heroic to stand up for more money for them. The question is at who's expense?
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Most of the VLT/slot parlors in NY are performing poorly. The slot operators say they need a higher cut of the take to promote slots.

Does the Bruno proposal shortchange the new slot machine operator? In theory, there should be plenty of money for horseman and the slot operator. Why, at this late date, has this become a hot button issue?
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You started a pretty good thread, but you forgot to state what year...
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A spokesman for Bruno said Belmont, located in Nassau County just across the Queens border, needs VLTs to become "a true tourist destination." …
That could be the most idiotic comment I've seen yet on this topic...and I've seen many.
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Assemb. Sheldon Silver opposes VLTs for Belmont
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… Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, in his strongest comments to date, yesterday voiced staunch opposition to installing slotlike machines at Belmont Park horse-racing track, saying it would "saturate" the metropolitan area with gambling and not generate the promised millions of dollars in revenue for the state.

… Without his support, legislation giving Belmont the lottery terminals is doomed despite strong backing from the Senate's Republican majority and Gov. Eliot Spitzer, a fellow Democrat.

… Silver has called for the issue to be set aside until budget negotiations begin in the spring.

… Gubernatorial spokesman Jeffrey Gordon declined to comment on Belmont specifically but said Spitzer was focused "on continuing to make progress" in the racing talks. …
http://leftatthegate.blogspot.com/2008/01/thursday-night-notes-jan-3.html

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… Charlie was on Capital OTB during the Spa meet saying they had previously considered how to race winter long at Belmont. Seems to me he discussed utilizing the training track with a winterized or synthetic surface and smaller heated facility that could handle the "modest" winter attendance. I don't think that would be a disaster.

A month or two of no racing (a political impossibility) wouldn't be a disaster either
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… my comment is based on the thought of 10 1/2 months of one-turn dirt racing at Belmont. …
… it's the change from one-turn to two-turns and back again which I think provides a lot of angles and juice throughout the year.

… Belmont is aligned so that the sun would never shine on the front of the track during the winter …

… If Charlie has a plan to conduct two-turn races at an alternate oval at the Belmont site - one that people can actually go outdoors and observe without freezing to death - then I'd have an open mind about it.
When the state takes possession of the tracks, its intended mission is to use that land to conduct thoroughbred racing. VLTs at AQU fueling purses at BEL and SAR while AQU provides stabling/training facilities in support of live racing still fulfills that primary purpose.

Surely its function is NOT to provide politicians and wealthy entrepreneurs with an opportunity to enrich themselves further at the expense of New York residents, industry workers, and racing fans nationwide.

At best, installing slots at AQU is a compromise of conscience forced on the racing franchisee by lack of management foresight and political avarice. The community hosting the AQU racino will likely pay a quality-of-living price that many of its taxpaying residents aren’t willing to pay even if others are.

It seems to me that Silver is showing himself to be more a man of principle and friend of the racing fan than Spitzer and Bruno combined. He is right to defer any immediate consideration of BEL VLTs. If the optimism of slots advocates proves justified, VLTs can always be approved elsewhere; and not necessarily confined to racetracks.

The racetracks are supposed to become the property of the state, not the local communities in which they are located. IMO VLTs on that property should exist there primarily to maintain thoroughbred racing as a self-sustaining entertainment attraction for generations of racing fans. If additional revenue can be generated beyond the legitimate needs of the non-profit racing franchisee, then it should benefit STATE residents, collectively … not private stockholders, individually. Meaningful oversight in that area is indeed warranted.

I’m not sure to what extent non-wealthy slotsplayers and local residents will be negatively-impacted by VLTs, but it seems to me that the less-than-enthusiastic response to slots in other parts of the state justifies caution as well as a wait-and-see approach with regard to BEL.
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… Belmont Park is a hulking neighbor casting a large and menacing shadow with the uncertain plans proposed. The low rent businesses on Hempstead Tpk are a reflection of many things but largely diminished attendance to the park. …
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… I know that as long time resident I cannot ever recall any outreach from the racetrack toward the residential community. I agree that the day care debate was a particularly ugly and xenophobic incident but the park lies in unincorporated Town of Hempstead. The location for the day care center was opposed by Floral Park (wrongly in my opinion)but they had no jurisdiction over the decision. I know there are plenty of NIMBY's in the adjacent communities but large scale development ,transportation infrastructure and casino activity are community altering events that people are frightened by and have been given very little information or reassurances. I am in favor of many of the ideas for Belmont as a resident and business owner but understand many of my neighbors concerns. …
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I know there are plenty of NIMBY's in the adjacent communities but large scale development ,transportation infrastructure and casino activity are community altering events that people are frightened by and have been given very little information or reassurances. I am in favor of many of the ideas for Belmont as a resident and business owner but understand many of my neighbors concerns. …
What exactly are the people in the neighboorhood scared of by having slots installed at Belmont?

Large scale development? Wouldnt the slots be installed inside of the Belmont main building? Even if they werent they would still be inside of the fenced perimeter of Belmont, not outside.

Transportation was mentioned. Wouldnt that mean more LIRR trains coming into the track. How does this affect the area? For all I know the train tracks at Belmont are on the city side of the border. I doubt there would be a major influx of buses coming to Hempstead Turnpike, even if they did most would come from the city side and turn directly into Belmont as they do now. 95% of the car traffic would be on the Cross Island, which is in NYC and would enter straight into the parking lots.

And of course the all famous "Casino Activity" line, that has turned the inside of AC and LV and Indian casinos into scary places.

All of these are suppsed to be community altering events that people are frightened by?

What a bunch of bull crap.

99% of the people who would go to Belmont for slots action will probably eat at a restaurant or buffet that they would build inside the building. I doubt any would stop for anything on Hempstead Tpke, other than gas.

I dont know, but has anyone in the Yonkers area complained about the slots at their track? If so what were their complaints about.

It sounds more like community posturing supported by elected officials saying we want our hand in the kitty or you cant come in.
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