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03-16-2016, 10:24 AM
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I agree
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03-16-2016, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
every single person who is licensed to work in this sport, works for the handicappers.
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Lovely sentiment.
How we would all like things to be.
Pretty far from the truth, though.
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07-19-2018, 01:08 PM
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P Val yearns to return
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07-19-2018, 01:12 PM
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He and I are friends so my comments won't surprise anyone. As long as he gives a urine test every racing day then they should let him ride.
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07-19-2018, 01:58 PM
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Partick Valenzuela is a prime example of the relative "lawlessness" with which this game has been marred since its inception. He should have been permanently banned many years ago. Yes...we all deserve a "second chance", and maybe even a THIRD one. But we don't deserve an INFINITE amount of "second chances"...which is what P-Val has gotten in this game.
Even if his latest absence is injury-related, that doesn't excuse him for the other times...when he disgraced himself, and endangered those who worked beside him.
P-Val gets no sympathy, or "benefit-of-doubt"...from me.
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07-19-2018, 02:20 PM
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This is what I saw and remember of P Val on July 3rd, 1992. He wound up in the flowers in the infield as his horse was impaled by the inner rail. He went directly against the trainer's orders as he switched from a left to right whip. High on drugs? Who knows. He was way ahead at the time.
http://articles.latimes.com/1993-06-...hollywood-park
Last edited by Augenj; 07-19-2018 at 02:22 PM.
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07-19-2018, 03:06 PM
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People have no idea how charismatic he is and how good he is for the game under the right circumstances.
Brought him to Costco with me one day. We spent about a half hour taking pictures with him and a bunch of Customers (mostly women)
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07-19-2018, 04:29 PM
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People have no idea how charismatic he is and how good he is for the game under the right circumstances.
Brought him to Costco with me one day. We spent about a half hour taking pictures with him and a bunch of Customers (mostly women)
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Fine. Maybe you can swing some influence and get him a job at Costco. Because in horseracing...people have to conduct themselves properly even under the "wrong circumstances".
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07-19-2018, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Fine. Maybe you can swing some influence and get him a job at Costco. Because in horseracing...people have to conduct themselves properly even under the "wrong circumstances".
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Man, it must be nice to have such a high moral authority where you can judge people based on where they are today versus yesterday.
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07-19-2018, 04:54 PM
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Man, it must be nice to have such a high moral authority where you can judge people based on where they are today versus yesterday.
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Forgive me for not being overly impressed by a controversy-plagued jockey's demeanor at a Costco.
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07-19-2018, 04:56 PM
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Forgive me for not being overly impressed by a controversy-plagued jockey's demeanor at a Costco.
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I have an informed opinion. You don't
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07-19-2018, 05:01 PM
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I have an informed opinion. You don't
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Yes...but you've already admitted that your opinion is biased as a result of your mutual friendship. So...how much weight should your biased opinion carry?
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07-19-2018, 05:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
People have no idea how charismatic he is and how good he is for the game under the right circumstances.
Brought him to Costco with me one day. We spent about a half hour taking pictures with him and a bunch of Customers (mostly women)
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The last few times he's ridden at lesser tracks he hasn't been very good, to be nice. Maybe he can help the sport in some ways, but riding isn't it. He needs horse racing a lot more than horse racing needs him.
That said, I hope he really is clean and sober. Wish anyone with his demons nothing but the best. I just don't think he needs to be riding horses at this point in life.
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07-19-2018, 05:26 PM
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best jockey that ever rode a horse
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07-19-2018, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Augenj
This is what I saw and remember of P Val on July 3rd, 1992. He wound up in the flowers in the infield as his horse was impaled by the inner rail. He went directly against the trainer's orders as he switched from a left to right whip. High on drugs? Who knows. He was way ahead at the time.
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Nice job John, for being in your mid 70's you've still got it Pal, completely forgot about this awful event.... 
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