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04-14-2018, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
What is special about March 18?
I'm not aware of any change to the numbers.
Do you have any PPs for today?
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it is the date given near the top of the thread before the hissyfit - supposedly when a changes was made
may not be exact but the way I play distinctly sharpened up at almost exactly the same time. I use the numbers in two ways along with some other factors.
I would REALLY like to understand what the number is and the change from earlier . I do have the PP's from today.
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04-14-2018, 11:33 PM
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#92
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I noticed that some people are suggesting that the fact that everyone has speed figures has hurt the game. I don't buy this theory. When there's a meet that seems to have very little value, in other words, too many short payoffs, not many overlaid winners, that's usually a track where the fields are short or the racing just isn't that competitive. At any track that has good size fields and competitive racing, it's still damn hard to pick winners and having speed figures doesn't make it an easy game.
Racing's problems aren't because of speed figures or giving player's too much info. It's a shortage of horses, and the fragility of the horses now (they don't race as often), which also leads to small fields.
There aren't enough owners, or horses, and there aren't enough good horses. Tracks that have cheap horses can fill fields much easier, but that's not good racing. But, at Keeneland, Saratoga, Oaklawn, and Gulfstream, the racing is very good and the field size is good. And there's plenty of value. But as time goes on, there simply aren't going to be enough horses, and in particular, good horses, to fill cards at most meets, outside of the ones I mentioned, and perhaps a few others.
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04-16-2018, 05:38 PM
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#93
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I spoke with Bris today.
Person I talked to spoke with tech supervisor who told him they will work on the problem after the Derby. It is a communication problem between Equibase and Bris pp generator.
If they worked on it when I told them 2 weeks ago, and if they work on it now, they said they could screw up something else and make others angry.
I am not a programmer, so maybe this makes sense.
So we will have about a 2 month period of no track variants from about 3/15-5/15 races in pps.
I said I may switch from Twin Spires if this is not fixed in a timely manner.
I just downloaded Kee 4/18 card from Post Time Daily for $1.50 instead of the $.80 that Bris charges me.
It has DRF variants, and their software allows adjustments to the pps.
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04-16-2018, 09:33 PM
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So BRIS screwed up something that has been working for DECADES and now can't unscrew it?
Why am I not surprised?
Do you know if the SR+Tv is in the file itself?
If it is, you can use Infotran to get the data out.
A bit more work, or if you have a newer version of Excel, you could open the datafile and extract them.
I know, a pain, but if you really need them.....
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04-17-2018, 02:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnGalt1
I spoke with Bris today.
Person I talked to spoke with tech supervisor who told him they will work on the problem after the Derby. It is a communication problem between Equibase and Bris pp generator.
If they worked on it when I told them 2 weeks ago, and if they work on it now, they said they could screw up something else and make others angry.
I am not a programmer, so maybe this makes sense.
So we will have about a 2 month period of no track variants from about 3/15-5/15 races in pps.
I said I may switch from Twin Spires if this is not fixed in a timely manner.
I just downloaded Kee 4/18 card from Post Time Daily for $1.50 instead of the $.80 that Bris charges me.
It has DRF variants, and their software allows adjustments to the pps.
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What does this mean? The Brisnet figures won't take the track variant into consideration for a period of 2 months? And this company asks to be taken seriously as a past-performance provider?
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04-17-2018, 05:45 AM
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Mike Schultz
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Originally Posted by horseplayer
Brisnet - carries the DRF speed rate and track variant and this can be printed with their past performance generator - 2 tracks I downloaded today Golden Gate and Laurel are missing the speed rate and variant for any race after march 18 - 2018 called Brisnet and they said they are aware of this .
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How do you turn this feature on in PP Generator?
Thanks,
Mike
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04-17-2018, 05:49 AM
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Mike Schultz
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horseplayer
spoke to Brisnet today and they are still working on it - don't know if a lot of Brisnet users bother with drf spd rate and variant.
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I dump them into an excel spreadsheet to compare with BRIS speed fig.
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04-17-2018, 09:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
What does this mean? The Brisnet figures won't take the track variant into consideration for a period of 2 months? And this company asks to be taken seriously as a past-performance provider?
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I don't think BRIS speed figure use the DRF variant.
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04-17-2018, 02:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PICSIX
How do you turn this feature on in PP Generator?
Thanks,
Mike
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On the top click styles.
Then make a new style. It will let you adjust to delete things and add things, like company line, which I delete and add purse values, drf speed rating and variant. At least you get the variant for pre March races.
Play around with it. You can undo any changes made.
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04-17-2018, 02:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnGalt1
I spoke with Bris today.
Person I talked to spoke with tech supervisor who told him they will work on the problem after the Derby. It is a communication problem between Equibase and Bris pp generator.
If they worked on it when I told them 2 weeks ago, and if they work on it now, they said they could screw up something else and make others angry.
I am not a programmer, so maybe this makes sense.
So we will have about a 2 month period of no track variants from about 3/15-5/15 races in pps.
I said I may switch from Twin Spires if this is not fixed in a timely manner.
I just downloaded Kee 4/18 card from Post Time Daily for $1.50 instead of the $.80 that Bris charges me.
It has DRF variants, and their software allows adjustments to the pps.
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Thanx for posting this
Last week when I last spoke to a tech rep he said that he noted my original complaint and would resolve it --- and then I got a refund for 2 files that I had downloaded- but he made no mention of any resolution to fix
problem .
If and when they do fix it - I wonder if they will fill in the missing spd rate and variant for those back races when the problem started .
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04-17-2018, 03:42 PM
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Mike Schultz
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Location: North Carolina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnGalt1
On the top click styles.
Then make a new style. It will let you adjust to delete things and add things, like company line, which I delete and add purse values, drf speed rating and variant. At least you get the variant for pre March races.
Play around with it. You can undo any changes made.
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Thanks
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04-17-2018, 03:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnGalt1
I spoke with Bris today.
Person I talked to spoke with tech supervisor who told him they will work on the problem after the Derby. It is a communication problem between Equibase and Bris pp generator.
If they worked on it when I told them 2 weeks ago, and if they work on it now, they said they could screw up something else and make others angry.
I am not a programmer, so maybe this makes sense.
So we will have about a 2 month period of no track variants from about 3/15-5/15 races in pps.
I said I may switch from Twin Spires if this is not fixed in a timely manner.
I just downloaded Kee 4/18 card from Post Time Daily for $1.50 instead of the $.80 that Bris charges me.
It has DRF variants, and their software allows adjustments to the pps.
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What kind of adjustments does their software allow?
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04-17-2018, 09:54 PM
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#104
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnGalt1
I spoke with Bris today.
Person I talked to spoke with tech supervisor who told him they will work on the problem after the Derby. It is a communication problem between Equibase and Bris pp generator.
If they worked on it when I told them 2 weeks ago, and if they work on it now, they said they could screw up something else and make others angry.
I am not a programmer, so maybe this makes sense.
So we will have about a 2 month period of no track variants from about 3/15-5/15 races in pps.
I said I may switch from Twin Spires if this is not fixed in a timely manner.
I just downloaded Kee 4/18 card from Post Time Daily for $1.50 instead of the $.80 that Bris charges me.
It has DRF variants, and their software allows adjustments to the pps.
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So the track variant is still available thru Equibase which I buy a few times a week, but not in Bris? Couldn't you just go to drf.com and from the pdf results files get the variant which is published for all tracks and races every day? You may have to manually input it into your file for your tracks of interest.
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04-18-2018, 06:22 AM
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#105
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Mike Schultz
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I'm now displaying days since last race (DSLR), DRF/Variant & DRF + Variant.
Awesome!
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