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05-04-2019, 03:13 PM
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Veteran
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Originally Posted by Tom
Tax at 35-1 is a must bet something horse.
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Scares the hell out of me.
My 8 page spreadsheet and number crunching had him 4th behind , and for some crazy reason I don't like him.
I just can't get beyond his :39.13 final 3Fs in the Wood just like I couldn't get beyond Animal Kingdom's final 3rd in the Spiral.
I'm on a roll of tossing the wrong horses.
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05-23-2019, 08:02 PM
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Race Player
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Returns for further review . . .
The Tax man returneth for the Test of the Champion . . . interesting Dosage Profile and pedigree calls out for further review.
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Last edited by Blenheim; 05-23-2019 at 08:03 PM.
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05-23-2019, 08:21 PM
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#48
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Registered User
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Location: Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blenheim
The Tax man returneth for the Test of the Champion . . . interesting Dosage Profile and pedigree calls out for further review.
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I played this horse last out and he was ice cold on the board-knew I had the wrong horse. I bet my superfecta on the Derby on friday, so it was too late to change my bet
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05-23-2019, 08:27 PM
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Location: Missouri
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Originally Posted by Boris
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I like him pointing out that the Gotham shouldn't be a KY derby points race because it is a sprint-I have to agree
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06-04-2019, 10:44 PM
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Location: Maryland
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I know his works have been underwhelming, but tied for second to last choice on the ML for the Belmont? Geez.
Clearly he can outrun those odds, but still eight others to beat for the win.
I liked him almost as much as Tacitus in the Derby, even more on value, and here we are again.
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06-04-2019, 11:31 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2017
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4 horses that had lead in the stretch ...G3 or higher
Tax
Spinoff
Wow
Tacitus
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06-05-2019, 12:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter
certainly has the looks of a board hitter.
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Except in slop.
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06-05-2019, 12:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
I played this horse last out and he was ice cold on the board-knew I had the wrong horse.
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I played Country House in the derby and he was ice cold. I still thought I had the right horse. Even if they had left Max up, I would have made $$.
Do you really base your wagers totally on what other people think? I don't mind doing that in every day races, or even regular stakes races, esp. when I have PPs for horses running at around same distance as they already have run.......but for races where horses are doing something they've never done for the first time, I don't look at odds.
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06-05-2019, 12:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n.c
4 horses that had lead in the stretch ...G3 or higher
Tax
Spinoff
Wow
Tacitus
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That looks like a nice exacta box for the Belmont in many respects, actually. I mean, it's not the worst you could do.
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06-05-2019, 12:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blenheim
The Tax man returneth for the Test of the Champion . . . interesting Dosage Profile and pedigree calls out for further review.
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At one point, Tax was one of the fastest horses at 2 and 3, and those were in his losses. 100% ITM before the derby.
He was a good bet there. He didn't like the mud. There was no way to know just how much he disliked it though. Nobody should feel bad for having included him on their ticket in the derby. I didn't use him but it was for other reasons at the time.
Last edited by clicknow; 06-05-2019 at 12:51 AM.
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06-08-2019, 05:50 AM
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Is his trainer usually this "coy"? I probably won't use him, because I really can't get a bead on him and the trainer-speak doesn't inspires confidence, unless he's trying to throw everybody off.
Horse is running iwth those new plastic shoes. they're supposed to be lighter. I don't know if that is good or not. Again, I can't wager in the dark.
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06-08-2019, 07:16 PM
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What he tried to do today just wasn’t a winning move on that track
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06-09-2019, 03:15 PM
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fightingirish51195
What he tried to do today just wasn’t a winning move on that track
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No it wasn't a good move for that track, I agree, and the same could be said about Tax's Derby.
You had to be thinking 'Quarterhorse from that gate and sit forward, and hope for the best'... yet he never got out of the gate in the Derby.
Reasonable to use him in the Derby and the Belmont as a bettor.
Heck, if he comes back at 9f + vs a G3 or so field at a good price, very reasonable to use him again. (not the most likely scenario, especially the big price part)
We can quibble about less than ideal trips and the fact that we can watch the video replays and we don't see the jockey in the Derby pumping the heck out of the horse the instant the gate opens... And we have a nice argument.
But, hat's off to team Gargan. Be it info, or good eyes, they claimed a solid horse, and they stretched him right out to that 9f group of NY prep races that aren't always full of a bunch of horses who can run a solid 9f+, and he overachieved. It was a sharp claim. Nice training job. Have to tip the cap.
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06-09-2019, 03:20 PM
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C'est Tout
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Location: Cajunland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
I like him pointing out that the Gotham shouldn't be a KY derby points race because it is a sprint-I have to agree
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Since when is a 1m16 race a sprint? Because it's around one turn?
Races run at 9f at Bel are also around one turn...are those sprints too?
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06-09-2019, 03:51 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
Since when is a 1m16 race a sprint? Because it's around one turn?
Races run at 9f at Bel are also around one turn...are those sprints too?
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The Gotham is a mile race, not 1 1/16 miles.
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