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02-15-2018, 07:36 AM
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The country is going downhill fast because too many people believe that the government has gotten too big and controlling? 
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The country is dying due to chronic government OBESITY.
The government doesn't know that gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins. 
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02-15-2018, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
The country is dying due to chronic government OBESITY.
The government doesn't know that gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins. |
Oh say, can you see.......your FEET?
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02-20-2018, 05:29 PM
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Please Stop Picking on Pelosi
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02-20-2018, 06:45 PM
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I don't know how anybody could take Pelosi serious at this point.
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02-20-2018, 07:24 PM
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More terrible news--For Democrats
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02-20-2018, 07:43 PM
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Buying votes actually works? 
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02-20-2018, 07:46 PM
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Buying votes actually works? |
Only if you buy them with EBT cards and phones 
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02-20-2018, 09:50 PM
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Buying votes actually works?
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Ask JFK.
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02-20-2018, 10:37 PM
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Only if you buy them with EBT cards and phones |
OK, Jocko. SNAP cost $68B in 2017. The Universal Service Fund that provides the revenue for the free phones costs about $5B annually. That's $73B in total between the two programs in 2017. Meanwhile, the GOP tax cut is expected to cost at least 1.5 trillion over 10 years or $150B a year.
On the one hand, we are helping people who are in dire need. That's the way the Dems roll. On the other hand, we are handing out money to most everybody but the people who need nothing the most are getting the most. And the tax cuts are costing us twice as much money as the SNAP and free phone programs. That's the way the GOP rolls.
https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites...NAPsummary.pdf
http://time.com/money/4362527/fees-t...ll-phone-bill/
https://taxfoundation.org/2017-tax-c...-act-analysis/
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02-20-2018, 10:44 PM
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But you agree stinky that some politicians make their careers promising people that they will take care of them knowing full well if they really did they would lose their base.
Some of these "entitled" people are generationally dependent of those politicians. So why shouldn't they vote for them?
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Last edited by jocko699; 02-20-2018 at 10:46 PM.
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02-21-2018, 12:09 AM
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On the other hand, we are handing out money to most everybody
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No, we are not.
That money is not being handed out - it money being KEPT by those who earned it.
You thing the government owns everything?
Here' s news flash, it doesn't.
That money I am getting more of now is not being handed out to me, it not being STOLEN from me. I've got a better use for it than some phone for an anchor. Go to the freaking library and use the internet for FREE. What else they doing all day?
If the dems are so danged worried about the loss of tax dollars, here's another good idea - CUT $pending. No one can tell me that there ins a trillion or two of WA$TE out there right now.
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02-21-2018, 12:47 AM
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But you agree stinky that some politicians make their careers promising people that they will take care of them knowing full well if they really did they would lose their base.
Some of these "entitled" people are generationally dependent of those politicians. So why shouldn't they vote for them?
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I am sure there are many people who think they can't afford to vote for one party or the other.
Without trying to be wise guy, I'll say this. Republicans dwell on those who abuse the system as justification for reducing or eliminating whatever the entitlement is. Whereas I'm happy enough if the vast majority are not screwing the system.
Hey, maybe I got my beliefs from working from the IRS. Because the fact is most people with the opportunity to do so are screwing the country out some tax money even if it's just inflating charitable contributions. Doesn't mean we have to get rid of charitable deductions though. The overall benefits of that deduction carry the day.
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02-21-2018, 07:42 AM
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A majority of voters are now are in favor of the tax cuts, people like keeping their own money. Germany is enjoying 8 % growth while imposing a 10 % tariff on non Euro products, President Trump is all over this and is reciprocating in steel, aluminium, and German cars. Your world view of giving a free ride to poor poor Europe is over, soon American's will be in line with the President's policy correcting these issues in trade and will want to make our tax policy permanent for the individual during midterm elections. Hey Stinks, you got a very long row to hoe.
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02-21-2018, 11:40 AM
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Germany is enjoying 8 % growth while imposing a 10 % tariff on non Euro products
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I think you dropped a decimal point.
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German Q3 GDP Growth Confirmed at 0.8%
The German economy expanded a seasonally-adjusted 0.8 percent on quarter in the September quarter of 2017, following a 0.6 percent growth in the previous period and matching the preliminary estimate. It marked the 13th straight quarter of growth, mainly supported by foreign trade and investment while household consumption and government spending were rather stable.
Published on 2017-11-23
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https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/gdp-growth
Germany has a value added tax (VAT) that is imposed on products made in Germany or imported. The consumer pays the same tax on a product regardless.
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President Trump is all over this and is reciprocating in steel, aluminium, and German cars.
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Tariffs on imports are paid by the American consumer, and can kill American jobs. Most solar panels installed in this country are imported. The recent tariff on them will decrease demand, and put an estimated 20,000 installers out of work. That could increase American production, but solar panel production is highly automated and would not create a lot of new jobs.
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02-21-2018, 12:02 PM
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Berlin has been above 8 per cent of GDP for the last few years
If Mr Trump imposed a sanction on German steel and automobiles, the entire EU would be dragged into the fold - this could punish nations like Ireland that significantly relies on America for trade.
Germany has the biggest surplus in the world, in absolute terms, after statistics showed that it reached $287billion last year - this outweighs that of China.
Berlin has also been above 8 per cent of GDP for the last few years.
“Germany is very 'unfair' on autos because the EU has a tariff of 10 percent while the US tariff is 2.5 percent.”
http://www.cetusnews.com/news/Trump-...ymTN_x1Lz.html
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