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04-16-2019, 12:40 PM
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Vegas Insider: Kentucky Derby Odds
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04-16-2019, 02:26 PM
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Top Horse Analytics
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Originally Posted by Blenheim
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Thanks. 
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04-16-2019, 06:35 PM
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Omaha Beach 4/1
Roadster 4/1
Game Winner 5/1
Improbable 5/1
Haikal 7/1
Instagrand 7/1
Maximum Security 8/1
Tacitus 10/1
Long Range Toddy 12/1
Vekoma 12/1
Code Of Honor 16/1
War Of Will 20/1
By My Standards 30/1
Cutting Humor 30/1
Plus Que Parfait 30/1
Spinoff 30/1
Anothertwistafate 35/1
Owendale 35/1
Win Win Win 35/1
Country House 40/1
Tax 40/1
Bourbon War 60/1
Signalman 60/1
Sueno 60/1
Instagrand 7-1 
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04-16-2019, 06:50 PM
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Tax is longer than Plus Que Parfait?
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04-16-2019, 07:10 PM
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Haikal 7/1
I have to believe that is a mistake
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04-16-2019, 11:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
Omaha Beach 4/1
Roadster 4/1
Game Winner 5/1
Improbable 5/1
Haikal 7/1
Maximum Security 8/1
Tacitus 10/1
Long Range Toddy 12/1
Vekoma 12/1
Code Of Honor 16/1
War Of Will 20/1
By My Standards 30/1
Cutting Humor 30/1
Plus Que Parfait 30/1
Spinoff 30/1
Win Win Win 35/1
Country House 40/1
Tax 40/1
Bourbon War 60/1
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Wow.
Terrible odds on all of those horses.
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04-17-2019, 10:51 AM
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should be able to get nice odds on some live contenders this year. i think Vekoma and Tacitus are not only great shots to hit the super but even decent shots at winning.
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04-17-2019, 11:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops McCann
should be able to get nice odds on some live contenders this year. i think Vekoma and Tacitus are not only great shots to hit the super but even decent shots at winning.
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Dont the tired spaghetti legs Vekoma showed in the stretch of the Bluegrass concern you going further?
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04-17-2019, 11:31 AM
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clean money
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkunkApe
Tax is longer than Plus Que Parfait?
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I also feel that price is out of touch with the Betting Public.
Unless you guys all suddenly warm up to betting Toddy because of a father/son/uncle/cousin/nephew/pal/etc... , Tax is a certainty to be this year's wise-guy horse.
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04-17-2019, 12:06 PM
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clean money
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
Instagrand 7-1 |
wow, they shouldn't take that bet
Isn't he 'out' on points?
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04-17-2019, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
wow, they shouldn't take that bet
Isn't he 'out' on points?
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Not just out, but way out. Would need six defections which is highly unlikely. That one being pointed to the Pat Day Mile last I heard.
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04-18-2019, 10:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter
Dont the tired spaghetti legs Vekoma showed in the stretch of the Bluegrass concern you going further?
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not really. fast is fast.
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04-18-2019, 02:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops McCann
not really. fast is fast.
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true but hes missing the 'fast' - 94 beyer closed the last 3/8 in 39.35 15th slowest final 3/8 of the field
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04-18-2019, 04:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter
true but hes missing the 'fast' - 94 beyer closed the last 3/8 in 39.35 15th slowest final 3/8 of the field
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Yep. I guess one could argue his Brisnet pace profile approximates that of Battle of Midway prior to the Derby which was good enough for a piece of the tri.. but BoM had superior breeding compared to this guy.
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04-18-2019, 08:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f2tornado
Yep. I guess one could argue his Brisnet pace profile approximates that of Battle of Midway prior to the Derby which was good enough for a piece of the tri.. but BoM had superior breeding compared to this guy.
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I could be wrong but in retrospect wasnt Battle of Midway sitting on a very fast pace in the santa anita derby and still hung on for second. I overlooked that at the time due to the bunched finish of like 5 horses figuring no one really separated them from the bunch but actually BOM staying on was basically a separation.
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