Florida Derby PPs

[Augenj]

Originally Posted by Secondbest

He came home in 36 with a 112.90 3/4. Does that qualify or is that 3/4 too slow?

Looks like he can run "12"s all day long. So much for being a sprinter.

[Secondbest]

Originally Posted by Augenj

Looks like he can run "12"s all day long. So much for being a sprinter.

I was just thinking the same thing

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by Augenj

Looks like he can run "12"s all day long. So much for being a sprinter.

Legit. Possible. Freak.


Could have been claimed for $16K.



A story that could be greatness.

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by jay68802

The Union's Destiny and the Garter and Tie are both good prices, but need to avoid the wide trip. (Will play underneath)

Hidden Scroll still has a shot, but did not like how he acted when passed in the last race. Looks to be a need the lead type.

Harvey Wallbanger, Bourbon War, and Code of Honor, seem to be the same but Code of Honor is the best of them.

The Bodexpress has the price and looks like the distance is going to improve him.

As pointed out Maximum Security was started in MC ranks and hope that deters some people. After all, if you look at his works coming in to that race they were slow and the trainer might have based his opinion on that. Moved up to protected ranks and even with the slow works, won again, then repeated the win impressively. Will sit two wide, just behind the and looks like he can take that one when he wants.


with the

This is solid handicapping.
Over 1k for a $24 Trifecta punch.
Stylish Jay....

[Suff]

Originally Posted by Suff

I was surprised to see that only Bourbon War has gone a mile1/8th before.

Bodexpress has the profile of a wild card.

$30 across returned $960.

Bodexpress was wavering, lugging. Juarez was into this horse hard, the 1/4 pole to home. Nobody made up much on on him. I thought he looked cooked.

xpresssbet.com website replay race 14,, after the replay , it now includes the 15 minute post-race press conference with servis and saez from the xpress suite on the 3rd floor. Servis UNPLUGGED>

But only on the HEAD ON replay. only the headon has the press conference.

Replay watchers UNITE!

[f2tornado]

Equibase scored the race a middling 102. Soft fractions to the 3/4 then an extremely inpressive sub 36 second final 3/8th. Last time I remember seeing that on the Derby trail was Strike the Gold and he got a blanket of roses.

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker

Legit. Possible. Freak.


Could have been claimed for $16K.



A story that could be greatness.

Do I have to keep the same trainer? Do I get the same results?

[boys at tosconova]

cheap speed hits pay dirt.

all it took was a less than stellar field and early fractions that were criminal......not to mention the improper handling of scroll.

not impressed @ this years fla derby....might have to auto toss like the wood, which has proven to be dogchit in the derby for years.

[Robert Fischer]

Give some credit to Luis Saez.

Castellano/Mott/Pace exposed a bit of weakness, and Saez jumped all over it, took the initiative and controlled the pace.

[boys at tosconova]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

Give some credit to Luis Saez.

Castellano/Mott/Pace exposed a bit of weakness, and Saez jumped all over it, took the initiative and controlled the pace.

does anyone know what was mott said after the race?

would like to know the plan for scroll

[Tom]

Originally Posted by boys at tosconova

does anyone know what was mott said after the race?

#$%*^#^*@!*

[PowerUpPaynter]

Id like to see Hidden Scroll in the Preakness and this time just let him run...

[PowerUpPaynter]

Originally Posted by zico20

I pray they will pound Maximum Security in the Derby, he will be nowhere. Absolutely brutal slow fractions on an easy lead will not translate to success in the Derby. What was Castellano doing on the That may have been the biggest head scratcher ride of the year. Trainers lie their ass off. Servis said his horse wasn't going to the lead. He had intentions all along if he could get it. I just made a small bet on Code of Honor, I knew I was in trouble after the half mile time. On to the next set of preps next week.

So what do you suggest the horse had done in that situation to translate to derby success?

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter

So what do you suggest the horse had done in that situation to translate to derby success?

I confess I was skeptical of American Pharoah after he ran a slug of a 3/4 mile in the Rebel before turning on the jets. Pretty much what MS did at Gulfstream. Soft fractions or not, a theft horse typically doesn't post a sub 36 second final 3/8th and sub 13 second final 1/8th. I'll also point out the horse did press the pace in his second start. Add in two triple digit BSFs while crossing off several strong Derby angles you have a very legit horse.

I do wonder how good the win was when four other horses also posted fast final 3/8th. Possible this was party result of slow pace. That's about my only knock. I'll use him.

[jay68802]

Originally Posted by boys at tosconova

cheap speed hits pay dirt.

all it took was a less than stellar field and early fractions that were criminal......not to mention the improper handling of scroll.

not impressed @ this years fla derby....might have to auto toss like the wood, which has proven to be dogchit in the derby for years.

The "cheap speed" ended up being Hidden Scroll. As near as I can tell, Maximum turned in the best prep race of the season. Yes better than Game Winner and Improbable. And his pace figures from the race say that the distance of the Derby is well within reach. Moves to the #1 spot in the run for the roses.