Obama: no one has ever made a successful life on their own

[tbwinner]

Very surprised this "gem" hasn't been posted here yet.

Love the promise to "finish what we started"

http://twitchy.com/2012/07/14/obama-...nt-build-that/

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/1...zabeth-warren/


"There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."



Are you kidding me?

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by tbwinner

Very surprised this "gem" hasn't been posted here yet.

Love the promise to "finish what we started"

http://twitchy.com/2012/07/14/obama-...nt-build-that/

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/1...zabeth-warren/


"There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."



Are you kidding me?

Note:even though I am replying to tbwinner here it should not be assumed that all (or any) of my remarks apply to him. I am responding to the idea that any person is an omnipotent creator of his own prosperity.

It's freakin' unbelievable. Not what Obama said, what he said makes sense. What is freakin unbelievable is that whoever wrote the article was able to so completely misunderstand what was said. Or should I say so conveniently misinterpret what Obama said.

When Obama said "you didn't build that" he was not referring to your business, he was referring to the infrastructure that made your success possible; the roads that brought you your raw materials, the machinery that converted them into the finished product. The railroads that carried that product to the retailers. Without a lot of someone elses your great idea would die in your brain.

Not only that, but your success is dependent on an important group. Your employees. Without them you have no business. I continue to be astounded that none of you get that.

At first glance it may appear that someone who says, "I am solely responsible for my success" is incredibly arrogant. But it could also mean they are very insecure. If you can get yourself to believe that you are solely responsible for your good fortune, then you can believe that those who are not successful are not worthy of success. Then you can be comfortable looking down at them and elevating yourself.

[Striker]

Since tbwinner and mostie are both Chicago guys--This reminds me of the Michael Jordan and Jerry Krause(former Chicago Bulls GM) spat that still is going on today where basically Jordan said he was mainly responsible for the Bulls championships and Krause says that Jordan was no more important than anyone involved in the organization. Krause argues someone scouted Jordan and someone coached Jordan and your team helped you and so on.

[tbwinner]

I know a handful of self-employed successful individuals in the Chicago that are one-headed with no employees.

In a broad sense, yes, you are not ALL alone in business (as you rely on CUSTOMERS first and of course in many cases your employees), however I cannot buy the argument that the statement 'If you've got a business - you didn't build that' applies to public works just because he states 'Somebody invested in roads and bridges', etc... "Somebody made that happen," to me at least, implies that a nearly socialist tone towards how our country operates, or should . And now let's define socialism as some people tend to forget :

"economic and political theory advocating public or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources"

[ArlJim78]

If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."


well he has surely sewed up the small business vote with this declaration.
and people scoffed 4 years ago when we called him a marxist.
strange how for years we supported people who fought against this ideology, only to succumb to it ourselves years later.

[DJofSD]

All of that crap is nothing more than the left trying to justify envy.

[ArlJim78]

it's also how they justify raising taxes on the rich.

[Greyfox]

Of course there is an element of truth in what he's saying.
Using the same argument he lets down and out winos off the hook.
"These bums didn't get there on there own. Somebody helped them."

There are several problems with thinking that blames society for an individual's success or failure in life.
For starters it reduces the value of personal responsibility in any success or failure situation.
Secondly, it fails to recognize that the rich lean less heavily on public facillities than the down and outer winos.
Thirdly, it fails to recognize that the rich give far more back to society than down and outer winos each and every day.
Fourthly, it is lighting a match to a Class War in America that he intends to profit from politically.

Obama is starting to show his true colors here.
His ideas reflect the core of Socialism. That has been on his agenda from the start.
Give him another four years, and that is the path that he will be going on.
Of course this message appeals to those on the lower half of the Bell Curve of the income equation.
Individuals in the lower income brackets will follow him like the children of Hamelin followed the Pied Piper.
Yes, he's using this stuff to support his taxing the rich.
Yes, he's dividing America rather than unifying it.

[lamboguy]

the government employees have been partying on the taxpayer's money. they just spent $1.2 million on a party somewhere.

it seems like the only ones benefiting from the Presidency are the government workers and the big corporation's that have big management payroll and bonus money. those corporation's in turn rob everyone with their goods and services.

the people that don't fall in those category's are the ones that are doing all the paying, not just with the taxes, but with the prices.

what is sick to me is that Obama allowed all these banks and corporations to rob the rest of us. now when he wants to get re-elected he hits us with the raise the taxes on the very rich. he comes off looking like a real swell guy. big deal, so now they stole $500 million and are now going to have to give back $10million.

[delayjf]

When Obama said "you didn't build that" he was not referring to your business, he was referring to the infrastructure that made your success possible;

O but they did, as a group it was the rich who built the infrastructure, its the rich that pay the @ 90% of the taxes in this country.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by delayjf

O but they did, as a group it was the rich who built the infrastructure, its the rich that pay the @ 90% of the taxes in this country.

and businesses are paying all kinds of taxes as well that are used to fund among other things fund roads and bridges, infrastructure. successful businesses providing jobs are the reason why we can fund infrastructure projects.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by mostpost

What is freakin unbelievable is that whoever wrote the article was able to so completely misunderstand what was said. Or should I say so conveniently misinterpret what Obama said.

Not unbelievable...Pure politics.

[ElKabong]

[QUOTE=ArlJim78]If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

Only someone who never ran a business would say such a stupid thing.

Ever notice this preznit needs to break others and down and divide classes in order to move himself forward? He's the perfect modern day democrat.

[NJ Stinks]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

and businesses are paying all kinds of taxes as well that are used to fund among other things fund roads and bridges, infrastructure. successful businesses providing jobs are the reason why we can fund infrastructure projects.

Your first sentence above is nuts. Anybody with a car pays fuel taxes at the pump. Just because an oil company collects fuel taxes from the public and pays it over the state or federal government does not mean the oil company is actually funding roads and bridges. The public is doing the funding for the most part.

Your second sentence is true, of course.

[DJofSD]

Unless the so called oil company owns the station, the oil companies do not collect and pay the various taxes and fees collected at the pump.