The King has spoken

[Tom]

King Barry has decreed that the law of the land shall only apply in those situations that benefit his re-election.

Certain groups of people ( younger illegals who are apt to vote illegally for Obama) will no longer be deported - instead, they will be rewarded for breaking our laws by being given working papers and allowed to stay here.

Connect the dots.....Obama is opposed to having anyone proving that they are legal citizens in order to vote, then he grants special favors to proven law breakers to allow them to stay here and to be apt to illegally vote, of course for him. Why shold they obey voting laws when they have been granted rewards for breaking other laws?

At what point do we start talking about high crimes and misdemeanors?

Scumbags like Obama and most democrats are happy to undermine this great country for their own personal gain.....we need to be building gallows in every state, in anticipation of treason trials.

GD Obama. and everyone who supports him.

[FantasticDan]

Yeah, Obama already has a massive 40% lead over Romney amongst Hispanics, but he really wanted to bump it up to 45 or so, thus this initiative

In 2011 and 2012, Obama deported (and will deport) a record number of illegals.. doesn't that make you happy, pappy?

[lamboguy]

in my life i have never seen 2 back to back presidents that the people hated so much.

i remember when most loved our presidents, TRUMAN, EISENHOWER, KENNEDY. after that forget about it.

the real irony here is that obama wasn't elected because he was so good, just because bush was so bad, and he effectively conned or convinced people that he would be better. he turned out the same or worse. i really wonder if we will be saying the same thing about the next president to take office whether this time or 4 years from now.

it is very tough for this country to go forward if they don't trust their leaders, and that seems to be the reason why we have been going backwards compared to other parts of the world.

[whiptastic]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

in my life i have never seen 2 back to back presidents that the people hated so much.

i remember when most loved our presidents, TRUMAN, EISENHOWER, KENNEDY. after that forget about it.

the real irony here is that obama wasn't elected because he was so good, just because bush was so bad, and he effectively conned or convinced people that he would be better. he turned out the same or worse. i really wonder if we will be saying the same thing about the next president to take office whether this time or 4 years from now.

it is very tough for this country to go forward if they don't trust their leaders, and that seems to be the reason why we have been going backwards compared to other parts of the world.

The part I put in bold from your post is very astute. From a policy perspective I think he's pretty much the same as was the Bush administration, but with some subtle differences. I do think that Obama is more intellectually curious than was Bush and consequently I think he's more engaged in the decision making process. However, I don't think this necessarily makes him a good leader. The Bush administration was just so bad that the bar was pretty low to get over.

Television, demographics, and the Vietnam War are the biggest drivers of cynicism in the popularity of presidents since the ones you cited above. If you think that JFK would be "popular" today, I think you'd be mistaken. He would have been outed for his, um, lifestyle choices and crucified for it. For that matter, Eisenhower could never get the nomination from the "modern" Republican party. He would be considered a radical leftist socialist communist or something... There is little room for a centrist or moderate to breathe in the modern political climate.

We are living in interesting times.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

Yeah, Obama already has a massive 40% lead over Romney amongst Hispanics, but he really wanted to bump it up to 45 or so, thus this initiative

In 2011 and 2012, Obama deported (and will deport) a record number of illegals.. doesn't that make you happy, pappy?

I think this shows how close their internal polling shows the race. He is going to get every stinking vote he can. Amazing.

Originally Posted by Tom

King Barry has decreed that the law of the land shall only apply in those situations that benefit his re-election.

Certain groups of people ( younger illegals who are apt to vote illegally for Obama) will no longer be deported - instead, they will be rewarded for breaking our laws by being given working papers and allowed to stay here.

This guy is off the reservation. He thinks he is a dictator. It's obvious his Attorney General and the whole damn cabinet thinks they are untouchable.

[Dave Schwartz]

Television, demographics, and the Vietnam War are the biggest drivers of cynicism in the popularity of presidents since the ones you cited above. If you think that JFK would be "popular" today, I think you'd be mistaken.

Gotta agree with this.

The question I find myself asking these days is, "Were our leaders always such poor examples, so corrupt as they are today or is it just that it is harder to hide the smoke (as in there must be fire)?"

[BlueShoe]

This move by this arrogant egotist has already generated a firestorm all over the media and www. This wannabe dictator has once again bypassed Congress, the Supreme Court, and the will of the citizens of the USA. Naked politics, pure and sinple, in order to gain a few more votes among Hispanic voters. The Supreme Court decision on Arizona's SB1070 law is expected soon, if the Court upholds it, how will that impact this edict of Obams's? It should be declared unlawful and void, that is what should happen, but will it?
www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-to-order-immunity-for-young-illegal-immigrants-20120615,0,184438.story

[whiptastic]

Originally Posted by Tom

King Barry has decreed that the law of the land shall only apply in those situations that benefit his re-election.

Certain groups of people ( younger illegals who are apt to vote illegally for Obama) will no longer be deported - instead, they will be rewarded for breaking our laws by being given working papers and allowed to stay here.

Connect the dots.....Obama is opposed to having anyone proving that they are legal citizens in order to vote, then he grants special favors to proven law breakers to allow them to stay here and to be apt to illegally vote, of course for him. Why shold they obey voting laws when they have been granted rewards for breaking other laws?

At what point do we start talking about high crimes and misdemeanors?

Scumbags like Obama and most democrats are happy to undermine this great country for their own personal gain.....we need to be building gallows in every state, in anticipation of treason trials.

GD Obama. and everyone who supports him.

Hi Tom,

I don't want you to blow a gasket, but I'm not sure what you are talking about here. I'm guessing it's the thing in Florida, but it's hard to tell what with all the invectives and bombastic rhetoric. From what I've read on the subject, voter fraud (actual fraud where someone pretends to be someone else to cast an illegal ballot) is practically non-existent. The measure in Florida reminds me a bit of trying to swat a gnat with an ICBM. The reason the Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed is that many laws in the South were geared toward disenfranchising citizens that are racial or ethnic minorities. History isn't on the side of Florida here, so when folks see an attempt to purge voters like this -- especially one so ham-fisted -- I think given the history and context, you can understand why they'd be so sensitive. The unintended consequence of a voter purge like the one in Florida is that folks who can and should be able to vote won't be able to. Given the lack of fraud, it seems like too high a price to pay to me. It seems especially unlikely that illegal aliens who are already trying to avoid a high profile are going to risk taking a chance by casting a fraudulent vote. Think of it this way, how insulted would you be if you became a citizen -- having aced the test that most "natives" would fail -- only to be purged as a voter because you were accused of not being a citizen?

[DJofSD]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

in my life i have never seen 2 back to back presidents that the people hated so much.

i remember when most loved our presidents, TRUMAN, EISENHOWER, KENNEDY. after that forget about it.

I'd suggest 2 back to back presidents that were hated which you might have forgotten were LBJ & RMN.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by whiptastic

Hi Tom,

I don't want you to blow a gasket, but I'm not sure what you are talking about here. I'm guessing it's the thing in Florida, but it's hard to tell what with all the invectives and bombastic rhetoric. From what I've read on the subject, voter fraud (actual fraud where someone pretends to be someone else to cast an illegal ballot) is practically non-existent. The measure in Florida reminds me a bit of trying to swat a gnat with an ICBM. The reason the Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed is that many laws in the South were geared toward disenfranchising citizens that are racial or ethnic minorities. History isn't on the side of Florida here, so when folks see an attempt to purge voters like this -- especially one so ham-fisted -- I think given the history and context, you can understand why they'd be so sensitive. The unintended consequence of a voter purge like the one in Florida is that folks who can and should be able to vote won't be able to. Given the lack of fraud, it seems like too high a price to pay to me. It seems especially unlikely that illegal aliens who are already trying to avoid a high profile are going to risk taking a chance by casting a fraudulent vote. Think of it this way, how insulted would you be if you became a citizen -- having aced the test that most "natives" would fail -- only to be purged as a voter because you were accused of not being a citizen?

Can you explain how purging the voter roles of people who shouldn't be on them could make it so that a citizen won't be able to vote?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by whiptastic

Hi Tom,

I don't want you to blow a gasket, but I'm not sure what you are talking about here. I'm guessing it's the thing in Florida

No, Obama, in spite of claiming previously that he did have the power, announced today that HS will no longer deport certain groups of illegals, just in time for his major rally with Latino voters next week. Timing remind you of his "coming out of the closet" on same-sex marriage?

[ArlJim78]

President Kardashian from only one year ago.

With respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations
through executive order, that’s just not the case, because there are laws on the books that Congress has passed — and I know that everybody here at Bell is studying hard so you know that we’ve got three branches of government. Congress passes the law. The executive branch’s job is to enforce and implement those
laws. And then the judiciary has to interpret the laws.

There are enough laws on the books by Congress that are very clear
in terms of how we have to enforce our immigration system that for me to simply through executive order ignore those congressional mandates would not conform with my appropriate role as President.

what a difference one year and falling poll numbers makes. Presto! suddenly we can pick and choose which laws to enforce.

this guy is making all the right moves for my landslide prediction to come true.

[Tom]

Rush just played the sound byte of him saying that.


What a lying bastard this SOS is.
Hey, all you people out of work......Obama just put 800,000 more people into the job market.

Now, if he doesn't add that number to the unemployment ranks, he can't count any jobs they take as being added.

What do you want to bet he doesn't and does?

The American Disgrace is getting desperate.......

[whiptastic]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Can you explain how purging the voter roles of people who shouldn't be on them could make it so that a citizen won't be able to vote?

Tom said this wasn't what he was talking about, so I don't want to drift the thread more. My quick response is that the error rate is too high and they are purging people who are citizens. If you want to discuss it further, we should start another thread.

[rastajenk]

If there's any doubt, they can vote provisionally. Nobody gets turned away.