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11-20-2014, 10:48 PM
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Horseplayer Monthly November Issue, Once again Free
Here: http://www.horseplayersassociation.org/hanamonthly.html
In The November Issue:
This issue is a massive 33 pages, jam-packed with analysis and statistics. Barry Meadow has an alternate look at key races, Lenny Moon explains money management, we have a thorough discussion of judging, including the Breeders' Cup Classic non-DQ, and Mike Dorr gives you insight on exotic wagers.
Also in this issue: Charlie Davis talks about his Breeders' Cup Betting Challenge Experience, the Track Phantom offers up some Breeders' Cup Trip Notes and Bet-Backs, Jason Beem discloses his life-altering experience with gambling, TimeformUS provides analysis and stats from the Breeders' Cup, and we have a multi-page Breeders Crown (harness racing's championship nights) pull-out section.
Thanks for reading and sharing it. We hope you get something out of it, and thanks to everyone for contributing their time and writings.
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11-21-2014, 08:42 AM
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Another great job!
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11-21-2014, 09:41 AM
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Thank you for this, Dean and HANA.
Downloaded it, and skimmed over it with my coffee this morning. Some good stuff.
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11-21-2014, 11:03 AM
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Thanks Aly and Robert. Was a quick issue this time, soonafter the Breeders' Cup one, but the boys and girls got it done. Love that people like Jason wanted to write something, too. Keeps things fresh.
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11-21-2014, 03:34 PM
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Money management article was great. Need to re read it, daily lol.
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11-21-2014, 04:55 PM
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Great work, the money management article really stuck with me.
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11-21-2014, 07:17 PM
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Thanks again, Dean T.
Enjoyed reading the BC trip notes and the Timeform Upgrade/Downgrade summary.
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11-22-2014, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Exotic1
Thanks again, Dean T.
Enjoyed reading the BC trip notes and the Timeform Upgrade/Downgrade summary.
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That's from Trackphantom (he posts here) and CJ, of course. We're lucky they work cheap
Thanks for reading folks. I coulda used the money management article today. Eeeeeek!
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11-22-2014, 12:07 PM
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Another fine issue. Great work, Dean. Thank you.
There was tremendous irony between the two pieces written by Lenny Moon and Jason Beem (jballscalls). Money management and the lack of it. A mindset, a predisposition, much of which lies in our genetics, our personality.
You're in a far better place today, Jason. I hope your book is selling well.
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11-22-2014, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Grits
There was tremendous irony between the two pieces written by Lenny Moon and Jason Beem (jballscalls). Money management and the lack of it. A mindset, a predisposition, much of which lies in our genetics, our personality.
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I thought that was pretty incredible too. Addiction is astounding to me but Jason's gone a long way toward explaining it.
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11-22-2014, 01:06 PM
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I thought that was pretty incredible too. Addiction is astounding to me but Jason's gone a long way toward explaining it.
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I thought he did, too. I should buy and read his book, but I haven't because I've felt it would be too upsetting to me to see--up close, the pain and loss of addiction. I've not ever known anyone with a gambling problem such as Jason writes of. And so young. He's to be admired, greatly.
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11-22-2014, 10:35 PM
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thanks for the nice words guys. It was cool to get to write a piece for HANA
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11-23-2014, 10:05 PM
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WHERE"S THE VALUE
It’s tough to beat 20% takeouts at any track, but that’s
made even tougher when favorites win at a high rate.
Here are a few stats from the last couple of years at major
Thoroughbred racetracks.
Aqueduct – 41% chalk, 0.8981 ROI
Belmont – 35% chalk, 0.8436 ROI
Gulfstream – 36% chalk, 0.8502 ROI
Monmouth – 33% chalk, 0.7742 ROI
Saratoga – 33% chalk, 0.8436 ROI
Tampa Bay - 35% chalk, 0.8170 ROI
What might be interesting about the above statistics is
that for the New York big meets, the return on $1
investment is quite high, betting favorites. They are not
bet down quite as much as we see at other venues.
A big part of the New York meets being higher has to be because of nickle breakage. The other tracks listed use dime breakage.
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11-25-2014, 12:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iwearpurple
WHERE"S THE VALUE
It’s tough to beat 20% takeouts at any track, but that’s
made even tougher when favorites win at a high rate.
Here are a few stats from the last couple of years at major
Thoroughbred racetracks.
Aqueduct – 41% chalk, 0.8981 ROI
Belmont – 35% chalk, 0.8436 ROI
Gulfstream – 36% chalk, 0.8502 ROI
Monmouth – 33% chalk, 0.7742 ROI
Saratoga – 33% chalk, 0.8436 ROI
Tampa Bay - 35% chalk, 0.8170 ROI
What might be interesting about the above statistics is
that for the New York big meets, the return on $1
investment is quite high, betting favorites. They are not
bet down quite as much as we see at other venues.
A big part of the New York meets being higher has to be because of nickle breakage. The other tracks listed use dime breakage.
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Very strong point.
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11-25-2014, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iwearpurple
WHERE"S THE VALUE
It’s tough to beat 20% takeouts at any track, but that’s
made even tougher when favorites win at a high rate.
Here are a few stats from the last couple of years at major
Thoroughbred racetracks.
Aqueduct – 41% chalk, 0.8981 ROI
Belmont – 35% chalk, 0.8436 ROI
Gulfstream – 36% chalk, 0.8502 ROI
Monmouth – 33% chalk, 0.7742 ROI
Saratoga – 33% chalk, 0.8436 ROI
Tampa Bay - 35% chalk, 0.8170 ROI
What might be interesting about the above statistics is
that for the New York big meets, the return on $1
investment is quite high, betting favorites. They are not
bet down quite as much as we see at other venues.
A big part of the New York meets being higher has to be because of nickle breakage. The other tracks listed use dime breakage.
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With the explosion of information players have combined with small fields and PED's, we might be looking at today as the "good 'ol days" when horses used to win above 4-5.
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