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11-09-2014, 09:54 AM
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11-09-2014, 09:56 AM
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Yes, John Coleman has been mentioned in this thread already.
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11-09-2014, 09:58 AM
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11-09-2014, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
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how come you only show the scientists who think it's a hoax and not the ones who think it's real?
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11-09-2014, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jballscalls
how come you only show the scientists who think it's a hoax and not the ones who think it's real?
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Put that shoe on the other foot.
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11-09-2014, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DJofSD
Put that shoe on the other foot.
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I'm not getting what you mean?
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11-09-2014, 11:02 AM
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Why should I, as a member of the the so called deniers, post information from the true believers when those who believe in AGW do not cite claims by those whom do not believe in it?
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11-09-2014, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DJofSD
Why should I, as a member of the the so called deniers, post information from the true believers when those who believe in AGW do not cite claims by those whom do not believe in it?
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because science is about gathering all the information possible. I'm just curious why people take a position on something without reading all the information they can. It seems the deniers all happen to be from one party and the believers from another party. People dig in and look for whatever information fits their agenda, as opposed to what is actually factual. If you're a denier that's fine and dandy, just curious why you wouldn't also be interested in posting information from believers as well to help the debate
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11-09-2014, 11:34 AM
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I have no agenda. What I do have is experience "doing science." And at the heart of it is being able to say 'prove it.' And then being able to examine, question and attempt to reproduce the results.
Too much of what is accepted today as debate and examination is influenced by politics and money. It cuts off the needed discussion in order to discover the facts. Asserting here's the results and there's no need to delve into the specifics because the science is settled is anything but scientific.
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11-09-2014, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jballscalls
because science is about gathering all the information possible.
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Most of what goes for facts and information in climate science is done via models. Models are made to fit the idea of the modelers. Therefore, the models will always tend to support the hypothesis. What we are finding over time is that even the most 'pessimistic' global warming models (i.e, show low amounts of warming) tend to overestimate the warming by leaps and bounds. You are more than welcome to post anti-AGW literature. There's plenty of it, both peer reviewed and non-peer reviewed, although as we all know by now, peer review in climate science is done by friends over a beer or two.
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11-09-2014, 12:41 PM
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B.S.
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11-09-2014, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
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Yes, I have a bachelor of science. Why do you ask?
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11-09-2014, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jballscalls
how come you only show the scientists who think it's a hoax and not the ones who think it's real?
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Do you recall here at PA when Obo won his second term, time to put your seat belts on? Besides no one gives a rats ass about your bogus claims of global warming anyway, when the money becomes very scarce we will use the ax to reduce the need.
Last edited by fast4522; 11-09-2014 at 02:16 PM.
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11-09-2014, 02:20 PM
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2012: BOHICA.
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11-09-2014, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DJofSD
. Asserting here's the results and there's no need to delve into the specifics because the science is settled is anything but scientific.
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I agree
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