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06-18-2011, 06:14 PM
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Most Overrated athletes of all time.
I love this list. I'm shocked that Lynn Swann had average stats for a wide receiver. I'm stick sticking w/ Brett Favre.
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/alltimeoverrated.html
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06-18-2011, 06:34 PM
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i am going to go with FRED LYNN in baseball
TONY EASON football
PHIL ESPOSITO hockey
EARL THE PEARL MONROE basketball
MIKE TYSON boxing
GREG NORMAN golf
TODD PLETCHER horseracing
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06-18-2011, 06:37 PM
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i met namath at a restaurant off strip in vegas. had a wonderful conversation about bear bryant, weeb ewbank, and sonny werblin over a few cocktails. he was with "the golden boy" paul hornung. namath couldn't have been any nicer, a real gentleman and the other guy couldn't have acted like a bigger creep. a real condescending jerk.
anyway, the NFL was up 2-0 in superbowls and favored to win by about 19 points against namath and his jets in #3. he predicted the win and delivered outright. he gave the AFL the credibility it sorely needed as to being ale to compete with the NFL on the field.
they merged and what we see today owes a lot to namath and that jet team for proving they could compete.
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06-18-2011, 06:46 PM
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This guy fails to take a lot into consideration. His list is full of flaws, here's a couple. Quarterback stats when Namath played can't be measured by today's standards. You'll find simular comparisons with Unitas, Tarkington, and others that when put along today's quarterbacks and the playing style, isn't really fair.
As for Nolan Ryan, look at the teams he played for. He uses won/loss stats to base his case. That alone shows he's full of shit when measuring a pitcher.
I give his list a D-. He uses all the wrong reasons to break the athlete down.
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06-18-2011, 06:53 PM
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As much as it hurts for me to agree Rush Limbaugh about anything, I have got go Donovan McNabb at least in pro football.
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06-18-2011, 07:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
TONY EASON football
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Lambo, i gotta ask. I got a good laugh out of this one.. What do you mean overrated? He stunk to begin with
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06-18-2011, 07:15 PM
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It appears you have to be really, really, good just to be over-rated.
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06-18-2011, 07:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pace Cap'n
It appears you have to be really, really, good just to be over-rated.
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Ha! Thought the same thing..
I laughed when i first saw this
Also receiving votes:
Sandy Koufax
Way before my time, but from what i heard he had a short career, but was incredible
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06-18-2011, 08:32 PM
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I laughed when I saw Koufax too. That's as dumb as it gets.
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06-18-2011, 08:42 PM
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T.Harding
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06-18-2011, 08:43 PM
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"Pete Rose never even came close to Ty Cobb (.366 lifetime BA) at the plate..."
Easily the most illogical sentence I have ever read!
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Last edited by thaskalos; 06-18-2011 at 08:48 PM.
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06-18-2011, 08:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
I laughed when I saw Koufax too. That's as dumb as it gets.
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Koufax had 6 seasons where he was 36-40 and allowed 13 base runners per 9 innings,and 5 walks per 9 innings and a era of 4.10.
He had 6 tremendous seasons in a 12 year career.Only 1 other pitcher between 1955-1960 had the second worst era in the entire sport only second to ZChuck Stobbs 4.28.Half of Sandy's career he was below average.
Mr.Bennett its the entire career that counts!
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06-18-2011, 09:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Casino
Koufax had 6 seasons where he was 36-40 and allowed 13 base runners per 9 innings,and 5 walks per 9 innings and a era of 4.10.
He had 6 tremendous seasons in a 12 year career.Only 1 other pitcher between 1955-1960 had the second worst era in the entire sport only second to ZChuck Stobbs 4.28.Half of Sandy's career he was below average.
Mr.Bennett its the entire career that counts!
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It really sounds like you never saw him pitch...I hated the Dodgers but have to admit he was the most dominant pitcher I've seen...doing it for six years isn't exactly a fluke...he came up at age 19, was wild & so it was a matter of maturing and getting steady work at which point he attained terrific command...he had to retire in the midst of his greatness or risk permanent arm damage.
Another point: against the best, he had an 0.95 total ERA in his World Series outings.
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06-18-2011, 10:47 PM
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OVERRATED ATHLETES (Current Era)
FOOTBALL ----- Donovan McNabb
BASEBALL ----- Derek Jeter (Great player...but "Mr. Yankee"? C'mon...)
BASKETBALL -- Dwight Howard
SOCCER ------- David Beckham
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Last edited by thaskalos; 06-18-2011 at 10:58 PM.
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06-18-2011, 10:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Casino
Koufax had 6 seasons where he was 36-40 and allowed 13 base runners per 9 innings,and 5 walks per 9 innings and a era of 4.10.
He had 6 tremendous seasons in a 12 year career.Only 1 other pitcher between 1955-1960 had the second worst era in the entire sport only second to ZChuck Stobbs 4.28.Half of Sandy's career he was below average.
Mr.Bennett its the entire career that counts!
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This kind of foolishness is what happen when someone bury his head in a stat book instead actually watching a game.
Koufax had 6 decent seasons as a back of the rotation starter, but for 6 seasons he was the best pitcher to ever play the game. No one else even close. You average it out and you still get one hell of pitcher. I am a Yankee fan and hate the Dodgers even more than the Red Sox, but I have got to give the Devil his due.
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