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Old 09-22-2015, 08:49 AM   #1
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Ben Carson Is Correct About Muslims Holding Public Office

Ben Carson is correct when he says that a Muslim has to say out right he that he puts the Constitution, the laws and duties of office over his religious beliefs. This is also true of Christians including the county clerk in Kentucky. An office holder may disagree with the law in regard to duties of his office personally and try change the laws, but until the laws are actually changed, they need to carry out their duties as proscribed by the current law.
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Including issuing marriage licenses?
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You'd trust what a devout Muslim says regarding his beliefs and how they'd influence his Presidency? I wouldn't but I'm in the minority apparently. No sooner than we have a horrific terrorist attack, Americans went and voted in a man whose religious beliefs were radical and racist. At best he's a Muslim sympathizer and we see how that's worked for our foreign policy as he's allowed Muslim radicals to rise to new heights.

Maybe we should spend less time worrying about being politically correct and more time studying the Muslim religion and what they want. No one, even an atheist, can condemn the life and teachings of Jesus. On the other hand, this supposed prophet Mohammed was not a good man, yet they will threaten to kill someone for "insulting" this man that they pray to.
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:35 AM   #5
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Ben Carson is correct when he says that a Muslim has to say out right he that he puts the Constitution, the laws and duties of office over his religious beliefs. This is also true of Christians including the county clerk in Kentucky. An office holder may disagree with the law in regard to duties of his office personally and try change the laws, but until the laws are actually changed, they need to carry out their duties as proscribed by the current law.
Would that include enforcing current immigration laws?
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:03 AM   #6
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Ben Carson is correct when he says that a Muslim has to say out right he that he puts the Constitution, the laws and duties of office over his religious beliefs. This is also true of Christians including the county clerk in Kentucky. An office holder may disagree with the law in regard to duties of his office personally and try change the laws, but until the laws are actually changed, they need to carry out their duties as proscribed by the current law.
I don't disagree with you, but it's a little different when you are elected to enforce laws A, B, and C which you are perfectly comfortable with and halfway through they are changed to D, E, F which you are not.

If a Muslim was elected and he was comfortable supporting the constitution over his religious beliefs, there would be no issue. If halfway through we passed a law requiring everyone to eat pork, I think a little carve out for him would not be the end of the world as long as everyone else gets their pork.

It would be kind of like taking someone's name off a license. Everyone still gets married and no one has to do anything they can't do.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:32 AM   #7
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If a man or woman is prepared to do the job and do it well, faith should not come into the equation.

Calgary has had a Muslim mayor for 5 years and he is extremely popular.

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If a man or woman is prepared to do the job and do it well, faith should not come into the equation.

Calgary has had a Muslim mayor for 5 years and he is extremely popular.

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Mayor's a far cry from President.

Regardless, a person running for political office should absolutely be scrutinized for all his beliefs and actions.
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I don't disagree with you, but it's a little different when you are elected to enforce laws A, B, and C which you are perfectly comfortable with and halfway through they are changed to D, E, F which you are not.

If a Muslim was elected and he was comfortable supporting the constitution over his religious beliefs, there would be no issue. If halfway through we passed a law requiring everyone to eat pork, I think a little carve out for him would not be the end of the world as long as everyone else gets their pork.

It would be kind of like taking someone's name off a license. Everyone still gets married and no one has to do anything they can't do.
Laws change while in office if you're there long enough. The person knows that going in. The woman should resign for not doing her job. It's no different than Obama deciding to not enforce the immigration laws. Libs are just hypocrites for not demanding he do his job just as they demand this woman to do hers
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Mayor's a far cry from President.
The thread title was about Muslim's holding Public Office.
That would refer to any elected representative, including a Mayor.
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The thread title was about Muslim's holding Public Office.
That would refer to any elected representative, including a Mayor.
Carson talked of the President and Canada isn't the U.S., so it seems I'm more on topic than you are.
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Ben Carson is correct when he says that a Muslim has to say out right he that he puts the Constitution, the laws and duties of office over his religious beliefs. This is also true of Christians including the county clerk in Kentucky. An office holder may disagree with the law in regard to duties of his office personally and try change the laws, but until the laws are actually changed, they need to carry out their duties as proscribed by the current law.
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Even as a devout Christian, I must completely agree with this statement.

It is the very essence of separation of church and state.




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Carson talked of the President and Canada isn't the U.S., so it seems I'm more on topic than you are.
The topic is Muslim's holding Public Office.
If you want to limit it to Muslims running for President, so be it.
My crystal ball doesn't see any person who professes before hand to be a Muslim ever getting elected as the President.
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The correct response would have been, "Are you a real reporter?
There is no muslim running for president who favors sharia law. Ask a relevant question about this election or shut up."

The whole thing is a waste to time.

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Ben Carson is correct when he says that a Muslim has to say out right he that he puts the Constitution, the laws and duties of office over his religious beliefs.
Isn't that the oath of office? (not to be confused with Obama, the OAF of office.)
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