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09-20-2015, 11:36 AM
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First they are upset that Trump didn't defend Obama when some one said he was a Muslim and then they are upset when Carson said a Muslim shouldn't be President ..........
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09-20-2015, 12:58 PM
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It's not up to Trump to defend Obama.
Barry's a big boy - he can defend himself.
The questioner was an obvious DNC plant.
Jeb couldn't wait to defend the Kenyan Krackpot, though.
One more strike.
Remember who started the birther movement, lefties......HILLARY.
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09-20-2015, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
It's not up to Trump to defend Obama.
Barry's a big boy - he can defend himself.
The questioner was an obvious DNC plant.
Jeb couldn't wait to defend the Kenyan Krackpot, though.
One more strike.
Remember who started the birther movement, lefties......HILLARY.
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It is up to all legit presidential candidates to put an end to falsehoods about anybody. You don't like Obama's policies and that is OK. What is not OK is spreading lies about his religion because you can not convince enough people oppose his policies on their merits. Things like show how desperate Obama's distracters are.
If the questioner was an DNC plant, it work better than they dared to hope because Trump did not offend his base by answering with what he knows to be the truth. Trump did what he always does. He let the question slide and then the next day tried to back away from what his answer or non answer. He has pulled this same stunt at least 5 times since he has entered the race.
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09-20-2015, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by magwell
First they are upset that Trump didn't defend Obama when some one said he was a Muslim and then they are upset when Carson said a Muslim shouldn't be President ..........
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Obama doesn't need anyone to defend him, especially not Trump. The problem was that Trump did not correct the questioner when he not only said Obama was a Muslim, but also said he was not a citizen. Both of those statements have been proven false more times than I can count.
As for Carson, saying that a Muslim shouldn't be President is the same as saying a Black shouldn't be President or a woman shouldn't be President. All such sentiments are based on prejudice and ignorance.
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09-20-2015, 05:21 PM
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No one would accuse Obama of being a Muslim if he wasn't so obviously a Muslim sympathizer while being president of a country that has historically supported Israel for a variety of reasons. Instead they would focus on what he actually believes in. He freely attended a church headed by Jeremiah Wright, a man full of hate, an anti-Semite, and an America hater, and didn't say a word against him until it was politically advantageous to do so.
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09-20-2015, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
It is up to all legit presidential candidates to put an end to falsehoods about anybody. You don't like Obama's policies and that is OK. What is not OK is spreading lies about his religion because you can not convince enough people oppose his policies on their merits. Things like show how desperate Obama's distracters are.
If the questioner was an DNC plant, it work better than they dared to hope because Trump did not offend his base by answering with what he knows to be the truth. Trump did what he always does. He let the question slide and then the next day tried to back away from what his answer or non answer. He has pulled this same stunt at least 5 times since he has entered the race.
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I didn't see you bashing Sanders for not criticizing Hillary when Hillary said the Republicans were terrorists. I guess for you it only works one way. How do we know that Obama isn't a closeted Muslim. How do we know he doesn't pray to Allah five times a day in private. His actions and words over the past 7 years clearly point out that he favors Muslims over Christians. Who would honestly humiliate their own religion on purpose. Obama does, so that makes me question his sincerity that he is a Christian.
It is not up to candidates to end falsehoods. God knows there will be hundreds of them come TV ads time.
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09-20-2015, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
No one would accuse Obama of being a Muslim if he wasn't so obviously a Muslim sympathizer while being president of a country that has historically supported Israel for a variety of reasons. Instead they would focus on what he actually believes in. He freely attended a church headed by Jeremiah Wright, a man full of hate, an anti-Semite, and an America hater, and didn't say a word against him until it was politically advantageous to do so.
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No one ever accused Wright of being a Muslim. The truth be know most evangelical Christians have more in common with Islam than Obama. Perhaps the biggest agreement between the two religion is on abortion.
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09-20-2015, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
Obama doesn't need anyone to defend him, especially not Trump. The problem was that Trump did not correct the questioner when he not only said Obama was a Muslim, but also said he was not a citizen. Both of those statements have been proven false more times than I can count.
As for Carson, saying that a Muslim shouldn't be President is the same as saying a Black shouldn't be President or a woman shouldn't be President. All such sentiments are based on prejudice and ignorance.
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You can prove Obama is an American, but not a Christian. How about the gay Republican who came out against same sex marriages and voted against gay rights. Guess which party accused him of not being gay. Same scenario here. Obama is anti Christian with his comments and actions. No different than the gay Republican. You can't prove the guy isn't gay, but the Democrats tried. I don't remember who he was, I just remember reading about it.
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09-20-2015, 07:15 PM
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Trump should have ignored the jerk and gone on to the next question. It was obviously a setup.
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09-20-2015, 07:46 PM
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It is up to all legit presidential candidates to put an end to falsehoods about anybody. No, it is not. It is up them to explain to us how they will act as our representative, nothing more.
You don't like Obama's policies and that is OK. What is not OK is spreading lies about his religion because you can not convince enough people oppose his policies on their merits. Oh, boy that is so stupid, it deserves no reply!
Things like show how desperate Obama's distracters are.
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You mean how desperate Hillary's people are. That guy was a Hillary operative, no doubt about it. She has pulled this play before. And it was SHE who started the birther movement. and Obama is not running, so wake up Bobby.
Trump handled it well. He remarked something bout oh boy, this is the first question? Then he turned it into a legitimate answer based on the topic - Obama's "war" on Christianity.
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09-20-2015, 07:50 PM
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The problem was that Trump did not correct the questioner when he not only said Obama was a Muslim, but also said he was not a citizen. Both of those statements have been proven false more times than I can count.
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Not his job to do that.
Sorry if you feel that being called a muslim is an insult.
I bet a lot of mulsims would take you aside to discuss that.
Anyway, it was HILLARY who started that birther thing. And yet you support HER?
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09-20-2015, 10:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Goren
It is up to all legit presidential candidates to put an end to falsehoods about anybody. You don't like Obama's policies and that is OK. What is not OK is spreading lies about his religion because you can not convince enough people oppose his policies on their merits. Things like show how desperate Obama's distracters are.
If the questioner was an DNC plant, it work better than they dared to hope because Trump did not offend his base by answering with what he knows to be the truth. Trump did what he always does. He let the question slide and then the next day tried to back away from what his answer or non answer. He has pulled this same stunt at least 5 times since he has entered the race.
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so candidates have a higher standard than people sitting in Congress?
Harry Reid lies, and then shrugs 'it worked didn't it?'
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09-21-2015, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
The problem was that Trump did not correct the questioner when he not only said Obama was a Muslim, but also said he was not a citizen.
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Do you know any Christians anywhere who would ever say this even as a
Freudian slip???
[YT="My Muslim Faith"]XKGdkqfBICw[/YT]
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09-21-2015, 09:10 AM
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The news media is trying to make the questioning of Muslims as a security risk off limits and politically incorrect. Except Trump who is notorious for bringing up things no one else dare talk about. The media is also trying to make the issue of Obama as a Muslim off limits. It won't work since Obama has made his behavior as obvious that he may in fact be what he says he isn't. .....
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09-21-2015, 12:13 PM
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It wasn't a Freudian slip, he was trying to make a discussion point about how the McCain camp hadn't directly accused him of being a Muslim, but there had been significant efforts regardless to accuse him of such.
Ironically, that out of context snippet was then widely circulated to again accuse him of the exact thing he was complaining about..
See how far some folks have come in 7 years?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslimfaith.asp
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
Do you know any Christians anywhere who would ever say this even as a Freudian slip???
[YT="My Muslim Faith"]XKGdkqfBICw[/YT]
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