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01-13-2023, 08:22 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2017
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Rick Dutrow’s ban ends. He has to apply for a license.
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01-13-2023, 08:35 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Boston+Ocala
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i know of one lady that will be the happiest person in the world when he comes back, SAMANTHA SIEGAL.
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01-13-2023, 09:11 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Clarksville, AR
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Wonder whether he will apply in NY or get started in one of the "easier" licensing jurisdictions?
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01-13-2023, 09:41 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,887
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To set the record straight, the worst screwing over in horse racing is when some POS trainer cheats.
Why is the ban being lifted? Because he hasn't cheated in years now? 
No one will convince me this is any way good for the game.
For him, maybe, but not racing.
Bad move. 
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01-13-2023, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
To set the record straight, the worst screwing over in horse racing is when some POS trainer cheats.
Why is the ban being lifted? Because he hasn't cheated in years now?
No one will convince me this is any way good for the game.
For him, maybe, but not racing.
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The ban isn't being lifted. The ten years are up.
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01-13-2023, 11:46 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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I didn't like Dutrow at all and felt the punishment justified. But it's a very important principle that if you serve your time and take your lumps, you should be able to rehabilitate yourself. Even many people who commit serious, violent crimes, get a second chance when they get out of prison.
If he qualifies for a license under the same criteria everyone else has to meet, he should get his license and I wish him luck.
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01-13-2023, 11:53 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,887
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the little guy
The ban isn't being lifted. The ten years are up.
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Thanks.
My comments should be ammended to it should have been lifetime.10 years not nearly enough.
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01-13-2023, 12:00 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2017
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He was crucified for his personality. 2 years would have been more in line with his bad deeds. Maybe even 1 year
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01-13-2023, 12:08 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
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Meanwhile Linda Rice continues to tear it up at Aqueduct..
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01-13-2023, 12:15 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 274
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Hong Kong
when it comes to how to govern our industry and rooting out bad actors, there should be a hard look at whatever is happening in Hong Kong, the most trustworthy jurisdiction by far
funny how people talk about corruption on a global basis, yet the most trustworthy racing is in China
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01-13-2023, 12:22 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheffwed
when it comes to how to govern our industry and rooting out bad actors, there should be a hard look at whatever is happening in Hong Kong, the most trustworthy jurisdiction by far
funny how people talk about corruption on a global basis, yet the most trustworthy racing is in China
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I'm not sure you can conclude much from that. Hong Kong's super-clean, highly regulated racing is a holdover from British Colonial Rule (indeed, when I first went to Sha Tin, it still had an empty, luxurious "Royal Box" maintained in case the Queen or some high ranking royal decided to come to the races there). China has not tinkered very much with it (unlike, sadly, many other aspects of Hong Kong that they have interfered with), but that probably reflects the fact that the Beijing government just doesn't care enough about horse racing.
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01-13-2023, 12:51 PM
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SaratogaFan1
Join Date: Mar 2022
Posts: 356
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I’ll take the stance on Dutrow more seriously when tracks don’t pick and choose who to come down on. For example, how the hell is JKX Racing allowed to run horses at Aqueduct yesterday and today?
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01-13-2023, 01:30 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2022
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whatever the reason
Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
I'm not sure you can conclude much from that. Hong Kong's super-clean, highly regulated racing is a holdover from British Colonial Rule (indeed, when I first went to Sha Tin, it still had an empty, luxurious "Royal Box" maintained in case the Queen or some high ranking royal decided to come to the races there). China has not tinkered very much with it (unlike, sadly, many other aspects of Hong Kong that they have interfered with), but that probably reflects the fact that the Beijing government just doesn't care enough about horse racing.
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whatever the reason, HK manages not to have the ongoing controversies we see with so many trainers, the list here is long, the list there of trainers with any controversies is zero
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01-13-2023, 01:35 PM
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 23,559
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I liked Dutrow.
It may be bias for rooting for him as a child, familiarity and home-team Maryland, but he didn't turn my stomach.
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