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Old 04-27-2020, 06:15 PM   #46
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NO, NEVER did
Then why do you find it necessary to whine about it?
YOU never could handle the advanced programs, so they are now no good?

Years after man's death, YOU see fit to come here and demean
him.

IS THAT how you justify yourself, attacking dead people on public forums?

Such a small person.
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Old 04-27-2020, 08:49 PM   #47
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You are so Over Powered by an ridiculous ideology, you cannot READ

I never added that part about someone hook winking a dying man (HINT it was NOT Howard Sartin either)
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Old 04-28-2020, 06:13 PM   #48
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You are so Over Powered by an ridiculous ideology, you cannot READ

I never added that part about someone hook winking a dying man (HINT it was NOT Howard Sartin either)
Post 21 and 25 - who were you talking about, Ray Talbot?
IT was SARTIN who made those rules and and he has been dead for years - so drop your cheap innocent act - you insulted him THIS WEEK - classless.

You then said your groups did its own research, so your entire contributions to this thread had zero to do with the OP question - only your ego.
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Old 04-28-2020, 10:38 PM   #49
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Sartin Master of Pschology

While I am not personally knowledgeable concerning Howard Sartin's academic credentials, I am aware of examples of his understanding of psychology. He demonstrated his mastery repeatedly in my view, which is informed by my formal degree in psychology from a prominent university. The best example of this was when, in connection with a project I worked on, he contradicted the conclusion of a professor who, when presented with Howard's thinking, agreed with Howard Sartin. This professor was subsequently awarded a Nobel Prize.

Further, in my experience, he was always ethical and genuinely wanted his clients to win.
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Old 04-29-2020, 12:47 AM   #50
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While I am not personally knowledgeable concerning Howard Sartin's academic credentials, I am aware of examples of his understanding of psychology. He demonstrated his mastery repeatedly in my view, which is informed by my formal degree in psychology from a prominent university. The best example of this was when, in connection with a project I worked on, he contradicted the conclusion of a professor who, when presented with Howard's thinking, agreed with Howard Sartin. This professor was subsequently awarded a Nobel Prize.

Further, in my experience, he was always ethical and genuinely wanted his clients to win.


Thank you for approaching this with an open mind.

From my understanding, MANY people hung out shingles in the '60s who were not necessarily properly papered (by today's standards) to do so. He was (apparently) never held accountable for any wrongdoing with regards to a psychology practice.

Many of those people were eventually grandfathered in when the licensing became more stringent.


Are there things that we can find to hold against him - especially if we look hard enough? Probably.

The real question that should be asked is, "Did Doctor Howard Sartin advance the position of horse players?"

Or, maybe, "Was Howard Sartin good for racing?"

My answer is YES.
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:49 AM   #51
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I don't think ANYONE who successfully used the ideas that Sartin promoted every gave a damn if his "degree" was legitimate or not....

IF they found the ideas worked, SO what?
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