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01-19-2019, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Do you really believe that the taxes a corporation pays to the government aren't rolled into the price of its products or services? Taxes are a cost to a corporation, no different than the parts or labor it uses to produce its products. A corporation's revenue covers all costs incurred plus a return on investment, or else it doesn't stay in business very long. Taxes are a cost of doing business.
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Ho hum.
Let's just destroy the United States of America.
It was founded by white slave owners, right? While we're at it destroy private property rights too.
Next, let's make the Government all powerful over the People.
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01-19-2019, 09:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
Do you really believe that the taxes a corporation pays to the government aren't rolled into the price of its products or services? Taxes are a cost to a corporation, no different than the parts or labor it uses to produce its products. A corporation's revenue covers all costs incurred plus a return on investment, or else it doesn't stay in business very long. Taxes are a cost of doing business.
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Of course they are, but so are all goods and services by small business Schedule C operators for them to stay in business. And they both end up paying taxes on their profits.
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01-19-2019, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
Of course they are, but so are all goods and services by small business Schedule C operators for them to stay in business. And they both end up paying taxes on their profits.
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And they all include the cost of those taxes in their pricing decisions, or they don't stay in business.
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01-19-2019, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye
Ho hum.
Let's just destroy the United States of America.
It was founded by white slave owners, right? While we're at it destroy private property rights too.
Next, let's make the Government all powerful over the People.
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Your point is not clear. Are you saying that a corporation passing its tax burden on to its customers is the moral equivalent of slavery? Or are you unclear as to what your point is?
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01-19-2019, 10:06 PM
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Smarty Pants
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
And they all include the cost of those taxes in their pricing decisions, or they don't stay in business.
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And your point is what?
Trump has people working for him.
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01-19-2019, 10:12 PM
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Smarty Pants
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
Your point is not clear. Are you saying that a corporation passing its tax burden on to its customers is the moral equivalent of slavery? Or are you unclear as to what your point is?
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Not at all, taxes are slavery in of themselves, but that's another argument.
This Country was set up to minimize Government.
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01-19-2019, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye
Ho hum.
Next, let's make the Government all powerful over the People.
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Quoting Republican Presidential nominee and Freshman Senator Mitt Romney.
Corporations are People.
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01-19-2019, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye
Not at all, taxes are slavery in of themselves, but that's another argument.
This Country was set up to minimize Government.
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At a very minimum, the role of government is to provide services that individuals cannot provide themselves, such as defense against greater power.
Our government has gone far beyond that, but taxes in principle are a necessity to provide defense and other communal services that we cannot provide individually.
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01-19-2019, 10:50 PM
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Democrats giving our taxpayer money to Planned Parenthood only to have Planned Parenthood give much of it back to Democrats. Could that be an example of money laundering ?
Last edited by porchy44; 01-19-2019 at 10:51 PM.
Reason: spell error
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01-19-2019, 10:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckeye
Not at all, taxes are slavery in of themselves, but that's another argument.
This Country was set up to minimize Government.
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I'd love to see some of you exist without government involvement in our society.
You make it out to be such a burden to bear when, the truth is, the contribution far outweighs the down side. Of course, there is some wasteful spending.
Way less then conservatives would ever care to admit, though.
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01-19-2019, 11:07 PM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
I'd love to see some of you exist without government involvement in our society.
You make it out to be such a burden to bear when, the truth is, the contribution far outweighs the down side. Of course, there is some wasteful spending.
Way less then conservatives would ever care to admit, though.
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Yeah, Government solves everything. Hysterical.
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01-19-2019, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Yeah, Government solves everything. Hysterical.
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Which is not what I said.
Try life without it, Rambo.
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Want to know what's wrong with this country?
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chance of returning to the WH, assuming that
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01-20-2019, 09:32 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
Corporations don't pay taxes, their customers do. It all flows down hill.
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In reality, the money comes from the Corporations.
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01-20-2019, 09:34 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
And they all include the cost of those taxes in their pricing decisions, or they don't stay in business.
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And that really has nothing to do with the topic.
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01-20-2019, 09:36 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
Which is not what I said.
Try life without it, Rambo.
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Which is not what WE are saying, Curly.
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